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csutke · 11-07-2009, 10:00 PM

So I was talking with a Co-worker recently and the toipc came up of, what would a modern revolution in the US look like? Would it be possible? Do you see it coming (near or distant future)? Would we be able to defend our selves from other countries if it were to happen? Are people that are on the Obama koolaid join in or defend what the current system is? Do you feel that we as a nation are at a point the this is needed? Would you join the revolution? What would the aftermath look like?

From the Declaration of Independence:
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

What say you? Just wondering what your thoughts are.

FunkyD · 11-07-2009, 10:14 PM

I think that talk about that is premature. Even in the darkest days after the election, I was of the persuasion that in about a year, a lot of voters would wake up, realized they were duped, and turn on the Kenyan. Well, that seems to be the case.

Next year's midterms should atone for this, but if there is evidence of funny business to keep democrooks in power, it could get ugly.

**BigDinTexas** · 11-07-2009, 10:36 PM

Not to sound too conspiracist, but maybe this is a topic better suited for the PV... While I am thinking about it, I need to double up the layers of my tin foil hat...

Don

thelongone13 · 11-07-2009, 10:58 PM

I think this topic is actually better for in person...

I don't see the need for a revolt IMO.

**Deadcenter** · 11-07-2009, 11:07 PM

A revolt should happen in the voting booth first!

csutke · 11-07-2009, 11:09 PM

Im not saying that a revolt in needed. Just wondering if there were to be one at some point what would it look like in your opinion?

thelongone13 · 11-07-2009, 11:16 PM

Oh, well, if there WERE one, I think it would be a non-violent financial takeover by China. Oh wait...

csutke · 11-07-2009, 11:30 PM

Deadcenter I agree.

thelongone

**Carnivorous** · 11-07-2009, 11:39 PM

"Revolutions" are easy to talk about, by those too lazy to revolt at the polls. If you don't have a sufficient majority to vote in a fair election, what makes you think you'll have a big enough majority for a revolution?

There are so many safeguards built into the Constitution, from elections to Constitutional Conventions, that a "revolution" would be absurd.

TRIGRHAPPY · 11-08-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

If you don't have a sufficient majority to vote in a fair election, what makes you think you'll have a big enough majority for a revolution?.

You're not the first to ask, and I will not be the first to answer with this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel Adams

It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.

11-07-2009, 10:00 PM	#1
csutke XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Grand Junction, CO Posts: 161	Revolution? So I was talking with a Co-worker recently and the toipc came up of, what would a modern revolution in the US look like? Would it be possible? Do you see it coming (near or distant future)? Would we be able to defend our selves from other countries if it were to happen? Are people that are on the Obama koolaid join in or defend what the current system is? Do you feel that we as a nation are at a point the this is needed? Would you join the revolution? What would the aftermath look like? From the Declaration of Independence: That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. What say you? Just wondering what your thoughts are. __________________ XDm 9mm Walther P22 When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson Last edited by csutke; 11-07-2009 at 10:07 PM.
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11-07-2009, 10:14 PM	#2
FunkyD XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 1,167	I think that talk about that is premature. Even in the darkest days after the election, I was of the persuasion that in about a year, a lot of voters would wake up, realized they were duped, and turn on the Kenyan. Well, that seems to be the case. Next year's midterms should atone for this, but if there is evidence of funny business to keep democrooks in power, it could get ugly. __________________ Blue Kool-Aid: The official drink of the Obamanation Proud member of the NRA Our freedom is supported on 4 boxes: Ballot, Soap, Jury, & Cartridge! Springfield XD-9 Service Browning BuckMark Kel-Tec PF-9 Marlin 336 Remington Fieldmaster 572 Remingon 870 Express Magnum 12 Ruger Single 6 Ruger 10/22 Tapco Ruger 96/22 LR WASR AKM
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11-07-2009, 10:36 PM	#3
BigDinTexas XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Temple, TX Posts: 379	Not to sound too conspiracist, but maybe this is a topic better suited for the PV... While I am thinking about it, I need to double up the layers of my tin foil hat... Don __________________ "You couldn't get a clue during clue mating season in a field of clues if you smeared your body with musk and did the clue mating dance..." - from The Eternal Debate video by BanditSRT8 How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! - Samuel Adams XD9 4" Service Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry II w/Night Sights Taurus 85 Ultralite Stainless
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11-07-2009, 10:58 PM	#4
thelongone13 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Little Chute, WI Posts: 3,673	I think this topic is actually better for in person... I don't see the need for a revolt IMO. __________________ "Time is the best teacher of all. Unfortunately, it kills all it's pupils." Help bring CCW to WI! http://www.wisconsinconcealedcarry.com/ XD .45 4" Service, Blacticool Marlin 795 (project tacticool plinker) Mosin Nagant M91/30 1943 Izhevsk Don't mess with the ARMED MALL NINJAS.
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11-07-2009, 11:07 PM	#5
Deadcenter XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: S Oregon Coast Posts: 2,346	A revolt should happen in the voting booth first! __________________ MOΛΩN ΛABÉ Oregon Firearms Federation
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11-07-2009, 11:09 PM	#6
csutke XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Grand Junction, CO Posts: 161	Im not saying that a revolt in needed. Just wondering if there were to be one at some point what would it look like in your opinion? __________________ XDm 9mm Walther P22 When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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11-07-2009, 11:16 PM	#7
thelongone13 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Little Chute, WI Posts: 3,673	Oh, well, if there WERE one, I think it would be a non-violent financial takeover by China. Oh wait... __________________ "Time is the best teacher of all. Unfortunately, it kills all it's pupils." Help bring CCW to WI! http://www.wisconsinconcealedcarry.com/ XD .45 4" Service, Blacticool Marlin 795 (project tacticool plinker) Mosin Nagant M91/30 1943 Izhevsk Don't mess with the ARMED MALL NINJAS.
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11-07-2009, 11:30 PM	#8
csutke XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Grand Junction, CO Posts: 161	Deadcenter I agree. thelongone __________________ XDm 9mm Walther P22 When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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11-07-2009, 11:39 PM	#9
Carnivorous XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 4,630	"Revolutions" are easy to talk about, by those too lazy to revolt at the polls. If you don't have a sufficient majority to vote in a fair election, what makes you think you'll have a big enough majority for a revolution? There are so many safeguards built into the Constitution, from elections to Constitutional Conventions, that a "revolution" would be absurd. __________________ Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it." [Gen. 4:6-7] *Carnivorous' Monster Boudreau Joke Thread!*
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