Pictures of your gun with serial # next to it - XDTalk Forums

rjacobs · 11-07-2009, 07:44 PM

I just took my MO ccw class today after moving here from TX last month. The instructor brought up a good point and a suggestion. Under MO state law(and other states possibly) if your gun(any gun) is confiscated by the police for any reason, you have to be able to prove that the gun is indeed yours to be able to get it back. Since we do not have a national gun registry and the 4473 form you fill out for purchase is kept by the gun shop(who is not required to release it to you, only the ATF, as far as I understand it) there is no record of guns bought or sold from a serial # perspective(as we like it).

His suggestion was to take a piece of white paper from your printer, print out the serial number in large letters, place the gun on the paper with the serial number below it and take a picture. Then take these pictures(or the digital copy on a memory stick) and put them in a lock box or other safe. This ensures that you can provide your local police(or other agency) with a record of a picture of your gun and the serial number to prove ownership.

Does anybody do this?
Is this a good idea or complete ****?

The instructor is a high ranking officer for a local city so I dont think he was feeding us a line of horse ****. It just seems like something so simple that nobody does and everybody should do.

I am contemplating doing this for the reasons he pointed out as well as possibly insurance issue's if they arise. Just wanted to get others input.

Johnnybgood · 11-07-2009, 07:50 PM

I think it is probably a good idea it certainly couldn't hurt. You can also save your sale papers which should indicate serial number as well. Or simply take a picture of the firearm with the serial number in the picture. It certainly is a good idea for insurance pictures.

FunkyD · 11-07-2009, 07:52 PM

Wouldn't a better idea be to get a close-up (macro mode) picture of the actual serial # of the gun alongside your CCW/CHL/LTCF to prove both posession and identification?

**Prezents** · 11-07-2009, 07:53 PM

I use this
GunSafe - Firearms Collection Software

**Krackels** · 11-07-2009, 07:59 PM

I keep all the copies of my 4473s.

My brother had to prove ownership of his pistol (as it was confiscated by the police). We kindly asked the gunshop if they could make a copy of the 4473, and they did.

**Frenchy** · 11-07-2009, 08:08 PM

The fella I deal with makes me a photocopy of the 4473, and I keep them in a 3-ring binder.

iwannadie · 11-07-2009, 09:42 PM

So, someone could go on this site in the picture thread and print out all the gun pics with serial numbers. Go to Tx and claim ownership of all these guns...

ThomasA · 11-07-2009, 09:44 PM

I have every receipt for every gun I've ever bought in a fire proof safe.

Grunt167 · 11-07-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomasA

I have every receipt for every gun I've ever bought in a fire proof safe.

Same here.... and scans saved to a thumb drive that is in a safety deposit box....

APBT · 11-07-2009, 10:07 PM

just remember where you bought your firearm BATFE requires FFL holders to hold all 4473's for 20 years so pick one gun shop that you love to go to and buy all your guns there and you wont have any problems

also is is always wise to keep all your paper work that you acquired from the purchase

11-07-2009, 07:44 PM	#1
rjacobs XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: TX Posts: 355	Pictures of your gun with serial # next to it I just took my MO ccw class today after moving here from TX last month. The instructor brought up a good point and a suggestion. Under MO state law(and other states possibly) if your gun(any gun) is confiscated by the police for any reason, you have to be able to prove that the gun is indeed yours to be able to get it back. Since we do not have a national gun registry and the 4473 form you fill out for purchase is kept by the gun shop(who is not required to release it to you, only the ATF, as far as I understand it) there is no record of guns bought or sold from a serial # perspective(as we like it). His suggestion was to take a piece of white paper from your printer, print out the serial number in large letters, place the gun on the paper with the serial number below it and take a picture. Then take these pictures(or the digital copy on a memory stick) and put them in a lock box or other safe. This ensures that you can provide your local police(or other agency) with a record of a picture of your gun and the serial number to prove ownership. Does anybody do this? Is this a good idea or complete **? The instructor is a high ranking officer for a local city so I dont think he was feeding us a line of horse **. It just seems like something so simple that nobody does and everybody should do. I am contemplating doing this for the reasons he pointed out as well as possibly insurance issue's if they arise. Just wanted to get others input. __________________ Springfield XD40SC Daniel Defense M4 Springfield Loaded 1911 S&W MP9
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11-07-2009, 07:50 PM	#2
Johnnybgood XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North West Florida Posts: 1,109	I think it is probably a good idea it certainly couldn't hurt. You can also save your sale papers which should indicate serial number as well. Or simply take a picture of the firearm with the serial number in the picture. It certainly is a good idea for insurance pictures. __________________ XD .40 SC Trijicon NS,Hard Chrome Slide by TRIPPS, Combat Carry Job by POWDER RIVER PRECISION. XD .45 Compact TFOS,NP3 Norton Special and Competition Trigger Job byROBAR. Ruger P345PR SOLD,Wish I hadn't Taurus PT 24/7 PRO .40 Cal. SOLD. Bersa Thunder .380 Savage 12 gage pump
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11-07-2009, 07:52 PM	#3
FunkyD XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 1,166	Wouldn't a better idea be to get a close-up (macro mode) picture of the actual serial # of the gun alongside your CCW/CHL/LTCF to prove both posession and identification? __________________ Blue Kool-Aid: The official drink of the Obamanation Proud member of the NRA Our freedom is supported on 4 boxes: Ballot, Soap, Jury, & Cartridge! Springfield XD-9 Service Browning BuckMark Kel-Tec PF-9 Marlin 336 Remington Fieldmaster 572 Remingon 870 Express Magnum 12 Ruger Single 6 Ruger 10/22 Tapco Ruger 96/22 LR WASR AKM
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11-07-2009, 07:59 PM	#5
Krackels XDTalk 20K Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 21,977 Blog Entries: 5	I keep all the copies of my 4473s. My brother had to prove ownership of his pistol (as it was confiscated by the police). We kindly asked the gunshop if they could make a copy of the 4473, and they did. __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin PA Roll Call & PA XDTalkers UserGroup
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11-07-2009, 08:08 PM	#6
Frenchy XDTalk 20K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Near the banks of the Missouri and Osage Posts: 20,855	The fella I deal with makes me a photocopy of the 4473, and I keep them in a 3-ring binder. __________________ ~SC Harvey~ *"The Republicans know we have a constitution, and they dismiss it with contempt and arrogance ...* The Democrats simply never heard of it ..."--Livyjr-2008 *"Patriots don't let patriots vote stupid..."--*Frenchy-2009
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11-07-2009, 09:42 PM	#7
iwannadie XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Az Posts: 477	So, someone could go on this site in the picture thread and print out all the gun pics with serial numbers. Go to Tx and claim ownership of all these guns...
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11-07-2009, 09:44 PM	#8
ThomasA XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ames, IA Posts: 1,008	I have every receipt for every gun I've ever bought in a fire proof safe. __________________ IowaCarry.org - Story Co. Coordinator "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. Sometimes history repeats itself. But some things always hold true. Call me conservative.
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11-07-2009, 10:07 PM	#10
APBT XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 15	just remember where you bought your firearm BATFE requires FFL holders to hold all 4473's for 20 years so pick one gun shop that you love to go to and buy all your guns there and you wont have any problems also is is always wise to keep all your paper work that you acquired from the purchase __________________ XD 9mm Service Black owner since April 2009 # of rounds as of 7/7/2009 150 - Winchester Ranger 600 - Remington UMC 300 - Winchester SXZ 9mm Training 100 - Winchester White Box 3 - Winchester PDX-1 (just to see if it feeds right) Total = 1153 rounds Problems = 0
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