Can anyone identify this WWII era knife? (large pics inside) - XDTalk Forums

KMFG · 11-06-2009, 09:39 AM

Ok, this was given to me by my grandfather back in the day. I can't remember the story of it at all, except that its from WWII. He passed away years ago so I can't really ask him about it anymore

I'm not sure if he made it, or if someone else made it or whatever. I think the handle is actually an ammunition shell of some sort?

In the following pic, I tried to focus in on the lettering/numbering. It reads: P1g38 and directly the right of that is a very, very small symbol which immediately reminded me of the n a z i iron eagle symbol

minus the swastika in its grasp

On the blade, "CHERBOURG 1945" has been engraved:

The end cap unscrews:

Honestly, its probably something that my grandfather made while he had down time over in Europe, but who knows?!

RichJ · 11-06-2009, 10:22 AM

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KMFG · 11-06-2009, 10:29 AM

I'm not sure what he did in the Army, but I do know that he was an engineer for GE for his civilian career. The blade is about 6" long, give or take a half-inch.

sourpatch45 · 11-06-2009, 10:29 AM

without a doubt thats a 20mm projectile for the handle, i have one just like it.(the bullet that is) the aluminum tip unscrews and it also has the driving band at the other end and the rest is steel. its an explosive round with the explosives removed and the fuse removed from the aluminum tip.
im 100% sure on the handle.... the rest i dont know.

oh and its not the 20mm round that the US uses today, its some other variation, there are dozens of different 20mm rounds each country pretty much had their own

RichJ · 11-06-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sourpatch45

thats a 20mm projectile for the handle, i have one just like it.(the bullet that is) the aluminum tip unscrews and it also has the driving band at the other end and the rest is steel. its an explosive round with the explosives removed and the fuse removed from the aluminum tip.

Ok. I'm wrong on all counts. Why would the steel have those bands around it and why would a projectile have an aluminum tip?

**LUVMYSIGP225** · 11-06-2009, 10:35 AM

Can't really tell. Please ship it to me for further analysis.

sourpatch45 · 11-06-2009, 10:36 AM

mine is the 20x110rb

sourpatch45 · 11-06-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RichJ

Ok. I'm wrong on all counts. Why would the steel have those bands around it and why would a projectile have an aluminum tip?

the bands are called driving bands that are common on 20mm projectiles and larger, the aluminum tip holds the fuse, my guess is because its softer and can guarantee it will set the fuse off

this isnt the same projectile but the idea is the same

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...projectile.jpg

here is another pic of a similar 20mm projectile with its case

LEVE · 11-06-2009, 10:45 AM

It is also possible that it was made from a training round. Those, sometimes, were all aluminum, or had aluminum tips.

sourpatch45 · 11-06-2009, 10:49 AM

heres a picture that is as close as i could find

11-06-2009, 09:39 AM	#1
KMFG XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Apollo Beach, FL Posts: 34	Can anyone identify this WWII era knife? (large pics inside) Ok, this was given to me by my grandfather back in the day. I can't remember the story of it at all, except that its from WWII. He passed away years ago so I can't really ask him about it anymore I'm not sure if he made it, or if someone else made it or whatever. I think the handle is actually an ammunition shell of some sort? In the following pic, I tried to focus in on the lettering/numbering. It reads: P1g38 and directly the right of that is a very, very small symbol which immediately reminded me of the n a z i iron eagle symbol minus the swastika in its grasp On the blade, "CHERBOURG 1945" has been engraved: The end cap unscrews: Honestly, its probably something that my grandfather made while he had down time over in Europe, but who knows?!
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11-06-2009, 10:22 AM	#2
RichJ XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 392	Post deleted. Last edited by RichJ; 11-06-2009 at 10:39 AM.
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KMFG XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Apollo Beach, FL Posts: 34	I'm not sure what he did in the Army, but I do know that he was an engineer for GE for his civilian career. The blade is about 6" long, give or take a half-inch.
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11-06-2009, 10:29 AM	#4
sourpatch45 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Boise, ID (its boy-see NOT boy-zee!!!) Posts: 4,853	without a doubt thats a 20mm projectile for the handle, i have one just like it.(the bullet that is) the aluminum tip unscrews and it also has the driving band at the other end and the rest is steel. its an explosive round with the explosives removed and the fuse removed from the aluminum tip. im 100% sure on the handle.... the rest i dont know. oh and its not the 20mm round that the US uses today, its some other variation, there are dozens of different 20mm rounds each country pretty much had their own __________________ I haven't stopped believing in god. I just stopped beliving he cares. There might be a god, there might not, but i dont think it matters. Either way were on our own.-Jace Wayland If you want to polish your barrel click the link below http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xdtalk-...ng-thread.html Last edited by sourpatch45; 11-06-2009 at 10:32 AM.
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LUVMYSIGP225 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rubber City, USA Posts: 8,559	Can't really tell. Please ship it to me for further analysis.
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11-06-2009, 10:36 AM	#7
sourpatch45 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Boise, ID (its boy-see NOT boy-zee!!!) Posts: 4,853	mine is the 20x110rb __________________ I haven't stopped believing in god. I just stopped beliving he cares. There might be a god, there might not, but i dont think it matters. Either way were on our own.-Jace Wayland If you want to polish your barrel click the link below http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xdtalk-...ng-thread.html
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11-06-2009, 10:45 AM	#9
LEVE XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Palouse Posts: 248	It is also possible that it was made from a training round. Those, sometimes, were all aluminum, or had aluminum tips.
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11-06-2009, 10:49 AM	#10
sourpatch45 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Boise, ID (its boy-see NOT boy-zee!!!) Posts: 4,853	heres a picture that is as close as i could find __________________ I haven't stopped believing in god. I just stopped beliving he cares. There might be a god, there might not, but i dont think it matters. Either way were on our own.-Jace Wayland If you want to polish your barrel click the link below http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xdtalk-...ng-thread.html
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