This has got to stop!

[Tard]

Yep, it's happening a little more often lately.

Something about the highest unemployment in 26 years and a totally bleak view of our over-regulated and triple-taxed future.

The urban ranges in the greater Seattle, WA area won't rent you a gun unless you already have one OR someone comes with you (that 2nd one, I dunno if that's effective). The more rural places just toss you the gun and say "go!".

What IS the suicide rate these days? Sure seems hard to find any relevant, current information on that stuff. Want to know for 2006? No problem.

[dkbikes4life4130]

Originally Posted by Jettubby

It's pretty simple; buy into the garbage the anti gunners say, "make guns illegal and there would be no crime".

In reality the guy would slit his wrist, take a bottle of sleeping pills, draino, etc.

Remember folks noone was ever killed or murdered before the invention of the gun.

I'm not saying that it would prevent the guy from commiting suicide. I just wish these people would quit doing it at gun ranges. This does give all of us honest gun owners a bad name. I cant talk to anyone now without them saying "your not afraid of getting shot at the range now?"

Originally Posted by cypress

I think his point is someone bringing a gun with them whether they intend to rent one or not is not likely to be renting one to gain access to a weapon to do themselves in. They could do that anywhere. Actually if you were renting to compare to your current gun, it would be a good idea to bring it for a side by side comparison.

Exactly.

[jmichna]

Originally Posted by jkontos

How on earth do you propose that these types of events 'be stopped'?

Originally Posted by dkbikes4life4130

Every suicide so far has been with a rented gun. I do not propose any laws, but if I were a gun range owner, I would only rent to people who bring in a gun to shoot. I believe this is what Shoot Straight is doing.

The policy of the range closest to my home is to only rent guns if there are two or more shooters... no lone person can rent a gun. The reasoning being the suicide won't off himself in front of a relative or friend. They still, on rare occasion, have experienced SIWs.

Also, you don't even have to be a range to have this issue. My favorite local gunshop has had "customers" walk in, ask to see a gun, then load a bullet they brought in with them and shoot themselves before they could be stopped. This too is rare, but it happens. A determined suicide will find a way.

[dkbikes4life4130]

Originally Posted by jkontos

Well, not renting to folks who do not bring a gun with them would help kill the market for new shooters. I go to my range every Saturday and there is always at least one brand new shooter who wants to get into the sport but [wisely] wants to rent a variety of weapons to decide which is right for them...those folks don't arrive at the range with guns...

Being the latest range to have someone off themselves there might also be bad for buisness.

[jkw_XD]

Originally Posted by Jettubby

In reality the guy would slit his wrist, take a bottle of sleeping pills, draino, etc.

Remember folks noone was ever killed or murdered before the invention of the gun.

Exactly!! They are going to kill themselves one way or another!! It's a shame they decide to go out like this... Now they're dead and the rest of us have to pay the price via no more gun rentals or stupid new gun control laws!!

Before there were weapons, people were killing each other with the bare hands and feet!! Is the government going to cut off our hands and feet because we could kill someone with them???

[Hetuck]

Originally Posted by jmichna

The policy of the range closest to my home is to only rent guns if there are two or more shooters... no lone person can rent a gun. The reasoning being the suicide won't off himself in front of a relative or friend. They still, on rare occasion, have experienced SIWs.

Also, you don't even have to be a range to have this issue. My favorite local gunshop has had "customers" walk in, ask to see a gun, then load a bullet they brought in with them and shoot themselves before they could be stopped. This too is rare, but it happens. A determined suicide will find a way.

Good god, not only are they stupid but cheap as well. At least buy the damned gun and do it somewhere that people don't have to witness it.

[jkontos]

Originally Posted by dkbikes4life4130

Being the latest range to have someone off themselves there might also be bad for buisness.

Huh? You're kidding right? Let's at least try to stay rational while discussing this topic.

[jkontos]

Originally Posted by Hetuck

Good god, not only are they stupid but cheap as well. At least buy the damned gun and do it somewhere that people don't have to witness it.

No kidding! Plus, I don't want their damn brains and blood all over me at the range!

[cypress]

Originally Posted by Hetuck

Good god, not only are they stupid but cheap as well. At least buy the damned gun and do it somewhere that people don't have to witness it.

Well, being broke is motivation enough for some people to check out early.

And as far as discouraging new shooters, while it would be nice to comparison shop, in my local area there are no commercial ranges, all we have are private clubs or game land facilities. The gun shops don't even have ranges available to try out a gun. I wish they did. But none of this seems to have had a detrimental effect on current gun sales and not all of them are repeat customers.

[mirage2521]

Originally Posted by jkontos

How on earth do you propose that these types of events 'be stopped'?

stop renting guns! very simple

or if you want to keep renting guns require an NRA safety class completion.