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XD-GEEZER · 01-04-2006, 04:27 PM

I have purchased a Bersa 9mm Ultra Compact. I intend to use it occasionally for concealed carry. So far, I'm very happy with this pistol. I've only had a chance to take it to the range a couple times, but I immediately noticed I have keyhole shaped holes in the target.

It was obvious to me, since I am used to seeing nice round holes from my XD-40 Tactical. I've read some threads stating this means the bullet is tumbling towards the target. Is this a bad thing? I've only used WWB FMJ so far. If I continue to see keyholed holes with personal defense rounds, does this mean the round will not perform as it normally should? That would make me hesitant to use it for CC. That would not be a good thing, since that was my main reason to purchase the pistol.

JesterXD40 · 01-04-2006, 04:48 PM

fmj's typically woln't make a perfect hole. If you get a wadcutter and it doesn't make a nice hole then I'd be worried.

ichy_trigger · 01-04-2006, 05:01 PM

I would do some more testing, bullets should not keyhole and yes, they may not perform as prefered if they are realy tumbling.

one-eyed-fatman · 01-04-2006, 05:11 PM

When bullets tumble barrels are usually burned out. No lands or grooves left.

ichy_trigger · 01-04-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

When bullets tumble barrels are usually burned out. No lands or grooves left.

I was burned out in high school but I got my groove back eventually.

one-eyed-fatman · 01-04-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ichy_trigger

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Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

When bullets tumble barrels are usually burned out. No lands or grooves left.

I was burned out in high school but I got my groove back eventually.

I bet you did.

TheWillis · 01-04-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ichy_trigger

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Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

When bullets tumble barrels are usually burned out. No lands or grooves left.

I was burned out in high school but I got my groove back eventually.

Wouldn't that just mean a bigger wound and more "tissue displacement"?

bigun · 01-05-2006, 01:47 PM

No. It means either somebody shot out the barrel, didnt take care of it, or its just a P.O.S.

**Old School** · 01-05-2006, 01:56 PM

I would think it takes ALOT to shoot out a barrel. Perhaps the crown is bad or the loads are off. I saw some guys shoot West Coast Bullets have the same problem. We called them "West Coast Wobblers".

Try some different ammo. If you have the same problem, have a Gunsmith look at it.

WaltherP99 · 01-05-2006, 02:43 PM

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Wouldn't that just mean a bigger wound and more "tissue displacement"?

No. I don't believe it would penetrate/travel that far due to the tumbling (hence why bullets are designed the way that they are and please someone correct me if I am wrong).

01-04-2006, 04:27 PM	#1
XD-GEEZER XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mason, Ohio Posts: 79	Keyholeing? I have purchased a Bersa 9mm Ultra Compact. I intend to use it occasionally for concealed carry. So far, I'm very happy with this pistol. I've only had a chance to take it to the range a couple times, but I immediately noticed I have keyhole shaped holes in the target. It was obvious to me, since I am used to seeing nice round holes from my XD-40 Tactical. I've read some threads stating this means the bullet is tumbling towards the target. Is this a bad thing? I've only used WWB FMJ so far. If I continue to see keyholed holes with personal defense rounds, does this mean the round will not perform as it normally should? That would make me hesitant to use it for CC. That would not be a good thing, since that was my main reason to purchase the pistol. __________________ Happiness is a warm gun, mama! Yes it is! Xd-40 Tactical Bersa 9mm Ultra Compact Ak-47 GP-WASR \"03\" Springfield 30.06 Various 22 rifles, shotguns, and black powder arms

01-04-2006, 04:48 PM	#2
JesterXD40 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pulaski Pa Posts: 411	fmj's typically woln't make a perfect hole. If you get a wadcutter and it doesn't make a nice hole then I'd be worried. __________________ 1 4\" 40 1 M&P .40 M&P Forums

01-04-2006, 05:01 PM	#3
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,417	I would do some more testing, bullets should not keyhole and yes, they may not perform as prefered if they are realy tumbling. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

01-05-2006, 01:47 PM	#8
bigun XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 2,563	No. It means either somebody shot out the barrel, didnt take care of it, or its just a P.O.S. __________________ Remington Rand 1911A1, Kimber Pro CDP 2, Kimber Custom Target, Ruger mark2 Govt model with Bushnell Holo site, Beretta 92D 9mm, Kahr K-40, Coming soon Kimber Warrior or Springfield Operator.

01-05-2006, 01:56 PM	#9
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,583	I would think it takes ALOT to shoot out a barrel. Perhaps the crown is bad or the loads are off. I saw some guys shoot West Coast Bullets have the same problem. We called them "West Coast Wobblers". Try some different ammo. If you have the same problem, have a Gunsmith look at it. __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

01-04-2006, 05:11 PM	#4
one-eyed-fatman XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,000	When bullets tumble barrels are usually burned out. No lands or grooves left.

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