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gudel · 12-14-2005, 09:14 AM

it ain't gonna be a 1911. hell the current productions can't even do it right, i'm pressure the military wants a reliable weapon.

mullanman · 12-14-2005, 09:41 AM

They were supposedly looking for a DA 45 semi-auto I'm sure with H&K providing the future weapons platforms XM-8 series =, I'd look for them to get the contract.

SLCDave · 12-14-2005, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gudel

it ain't gonna be a 1911. hell the current productions can't even do it right, i'm pressure the military wants a reliable weapon.

Can't or won't? I fully believe that Colt, SA, Kimber, etc. CAN, but as long as it's acceptable for them not to, why bother?

Brickboy240 · 12-14-2005, 10:10 AM

Back to the 45ACP, eh?

Life is a circle!

(stick with what works)

- Brickboy240

Sry0fcr · 12-14-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by therooster

i have heard from a reliable source that its NOT going to be a 1911.

I wouldn't think that it would. I'd say HK or Sig gets the nod.

mr0w1 · 12-14-2005, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mullanman

They were supposedly looking for a DA 45 semi-auto I'm sure with H&K providing the future weapons platforms XM-8 series =, I'd look for them to get the contract.

Wasn't the XM-8 program scrapped?

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Originally Posted by gudel

it ain't gonna be a 1911. hell the current productions can't even do it right, i'm pressure the military wants a reliable weapon.

I believe that the current reputation of 1911's being unreliable is because of the push from the consumer to push the tolerance limits, getting a tighter and tighter gun. The tighter a gun gets, the less reliable it becomes. If Kimber was making 1911's as sloppy (not sloppy in a bad way, but in terms of tolerances) as an older Colt*, they wouldn't be nearly as unreliable.

Although I'm not entirely sure that current production 1911's deserve the reputation they're getting right now, kinda like the XD/rust reputation. Just my opinion...

* This is a comparison between my Kimber and my dad's Colt. Grab the Kimber, rattle it back and forth - silent. Grab the Colt, rattle it, you hear parts moving on the inside.

NiK · 12-14-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mr0w1

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Originally Posted by mullanman

They were supposedly looking for a DA 45 semi-auto I'm sure with H&K providing the future weapons platforms XM-8 series =, I'd look for them to get the contract.

Wasn't the XM-8 program scrapped?

It's on indefinite hold, meaning yes its scrapped. They cited the lack of modularity, i.e. they want the new rifle to be part of a family which includes a replacement for the SAW and possibly the M240B. I'm thinking political pressure had a little do with it, too.

impcmonk · 12-14-2005, 03:47 PM

SOCOM has already outfitted Marine First Det. with the Kimber Warrior. I bought one and it is one fine pistol. Deadly accurate out of the box.

.40-.45 · 12-14-2005, 05:27 PM

the 1911 is a fine pistol

but I have heard form the sand box that the fine sand and dust is causing real problems with the 1911 platform

that being said the person I spoke to is a true 1911 believer

his comment was that the dust is really fouling things up

2 cents

.40-.45 · 12-14-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NiK

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Originally Posted by mr0w1

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Originally Posted by mullanman

They were supposedly looking for a DA 45 semi-auto I'm sure with H&K providing the future weapons platforms XM-8 series =, I'd look for them to get the contract.

Wasn't the XM-8 program scrapped?

It's on indefinite hold, meaning yes its scrapped. They cited the lack of modularity, i.e. they want the new rifle to be part of a family which includes a replacement for the SAW and possibly the M240B. I'm thinking political pressure had a little do with it, too.

I thought the xm 8 had the multi platform capabilites

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12-14-2005, 09:14 AM	#11
gudel XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Golden State Posts: 26	it ain't gonna be a 1911. hell the current productions can't even do it right, i'm pressure the military wants a reliable weapon.

12-14-2005, 05:27 PM	#19
.40-.45 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 750	the 1911 is a fine pistol but I have heard form the sand box that the fine sand and dust is causing real problems with the 1911 platform that being said the person I spoke to is a true 1911 believer his comment was that the dust is really fouling things up 2 cents