I'm thinking about a new .45 auto......

[dave2184]

I had a springfield 1911 Loaded and was never realy comfortable with it, mostly weight I also had a hard time getting used to the shape of the grip with the panels. Too used to the one piece grips I guess. Also had a Ruger P series in .45 and didn't care for it much from the start. Ended up with a full size HK USP .45 and I have a hard time putting it down. I hear great things about the compact as well but havn't handled one yet. Definatly add them to your must fondle list of .45s.

Later, Dave

[jetsiphon]

Originally Posted by So Flo

jetsiphon, tell me about the Para LTC. Do you still own it? What attracted you to it and if you do not still have it, why did you get rid of it?

I am thinking on another gun in the near future and love the LDA trigger on my C7-45.

The LTC was a great gun. I didn't like the "Kimberish" look to it and took all the stainless colored parts off. I had a problem with the slide stop I put on it, but when replaced with a Para slide stop. Para has the best customer service that I've delt with. I'm really thinking about another Para, now that they've expanded their line of guns with rails. I LOVE thier LDA trigger. Best DAO trigger ever, IMO.

Why did I get rid of it? Change, I still have 2 1911's in the barn so, I figured I'd change for a "semi custom" or a high cap LDA from Para.

Originally Posted by dave2184

I had a springfield 1911 Loaded and was never realy comfortable with it, mostly weight I also had a hard time getting used to the shape of the grip with the panels. Too used to the one piece grips I guess. Also had a Ruger P series in .45 and didn't care for it much from the start. Ended up with a full size HK USP .45 and I have a hard time putting it down. I hear great things about the compact as well but havn't handled one yet. Definatly add them to your must fondle list of .45s.

Later, Dave

I've shot 2 different USP's in .45. The are good guns, just not for me. Bit big too.

On a side note, after looking into the 228 and finding out that the only real difference between the 228 and 229 is the slide, I'm not going for the 228. One day I'll grab up a 229 in 9mm or .357 Sig. Kinda works out since I would rather have DAO than DA and I can just pick up a 229 DAK.

[.40-.45]

can you get a Sig 220 with the SAS treatment

That would be a sweet set up!!!!

[jetsiphon]

Originally Posted by .40-.45

can you get a Sig 220 with the SAS treatment

That would be a sweet set up!!!!

Oooooooooohhhhh man.

[Brickboy240]

How much over 1000 dollars are you willing to go?

If you want to stay in the 1911 category...I'd look at the Wilson 1911s or the STIs...thats about as good as you can get. Also, don't forget that you CAN take a sub-500 dollar 1911, like a Springer Mil-Spec and add 500 dollars worth of goodies that YOU want and leave out the rest and probably end up with a customized pistol that you really like. Theres something to be said for adding only what you think YOU need, instead of buying a production gun that already has things you may not care for later on.

Example? I detest full length guide rods and flat mainspring housings and like other features...mainly internal things like good springs and trigger. My solution? I bought a nicely used Series 70 Colt Combat Commander for 500 bucks and will add only what I need. I then have a unique gun that is quality (Series 70 Colt) and does exactly what I need and leaves out what I do not want. You might want to at least explore that option. I really believe that is the beauty of the 1911 platform - one can tweak it how ever they want and leave out things they don't like. Everyone's different. I went this route, after looking hard at S&W and Kimber 1911s and not wanting all their options or the higher price tag.

Also, I understand your fascination with the Sig 220. I too have an early Browning BDA/Sig 220 in 45acp and love it. I really believe that other than the 1911, this is the only other platform for launching the 45ACP that is worth a damn. IF you like the 220 and can shoot it well - go for it. The 220, no matter how good it is...is not capable of as nice of a trigger pull as the 1911, though.

Good luck in your decision...you're on the right track.

- Brickboy240

[txpete]

buy a colt!! they are just like harleys they are only going to go up in price not down.

[jetsiphon]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

How much over 1000 dollars are you willing to go?

If you want to stay in the 1911 category...I'd look at the Wilson 1911s or the STIs...thats about as good as you can get. Also, don't forget that you CAN take a sub-500 dollar 1911, like a Springer Mil-Spec and add 500 dollars worth of goodies that YOU want and leave out the rest and probably end up with a customized pistol that you really like. Theres something to be said for adding only what you think YOU need, instead of buying a production gun that already has things you may not care for later on.

Example? I detest full length guide rods and flat mainspring housings and like other features...mainly internal things like good springs and trigger. My solution? I bought a nicely used Series 70 Colt Combat Commander for 500 bucks and will add only what I need. I then have a unique gun that is quality (Series 70 Colt) and does exactly what I need and leaves out what I do not want. You might want to at least explore that option. I really believe that is the beauty of the 1911 platform - one can tweak it how ever they want and leave out things they don't like. Everyone's different. I went this route, after looking hard at S&W and Kimber 1911s and not wanting all their options or the higher price tag.

Also, I understand your fascination with the Sig 220. I too have an early Browning BDA/Sig 220 in 45acp and love it. I really believe that other than the 1911, this is the only other platform for launching the 45ACP that is worth a damn. IF you like the 220 and can shoot it well - go for it. The 220, no matter how good it is...is not capable of as nice of a trigger pull as the 1911, though.

Good luck in your decision...you're on the right track.

- Brickboy240

I'm not looking to do much over $1000.00, I know that the STI and TRP are a few hundred over that, but I'd like to stay as far away from $1500.00 as possible.

I suppose I could do a Yost custom or something along those lines, the 1* package is only $1200ish on a new Springer. The only thing that I really don't care for though on production guns is a FLGR and flat MSH.

I'm not too sure of local smiths that have the rep to do the work for the money. I don't wana pay a smith $500 and get something that has feed issues, ya know? Figure it would be a slam dunk to go with Yost if I want custom work.

I know the trigger on a 220 won't be that of a 1911 and I'm ok with that. It's one of the reasons I'd be looking at getting the 220 in DAO.

Damn decisions.

[Brickboy240]

Too bad...for alot less thatn 500 bucks - there are lots of smiths here that do great work and their 1911s do NOT have feed issues at all.

(come on, most 1911 feed issues are 3-fold: polished feed ramp, good extractor, good magazine...its really not a daunting task to make a 1911 reliable)

- Brickboy240

[jetsiphon]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Too bad...for alot less thatn 500 bucks - there are lots of smiths here that do great work and their 1911s do NOT have feed issues at all.

(come on, most 1911 feed issues are 3-fold: polished feed ramp, good extractor, good magazine...its really not a daunting task to make a 1911 reliable)

- Brickboy240

Yeah, that's true. I know 1911's can be very reliable, I'm just worried about being burned by a local smith. It's not totally out of the picture at all, I just need to research it more.

[Brickboy240]

I would go out on a limb and say that a Springfield Mil-Spec or Colt M1991A1 with the following alterations would run you slightly under a grand and would provide you with an amazingly nice, accurate and reliable pistol.

1) Wilson Spring kit

2) Trigger/action job (polishing the internals, etc.)

3) Wilson Bulletproof Extractor (properly tensioned)

4) Wilson Magazines

5) maybe aftermarket fixed sights of your choice

Actually, I would think you could take ANY bone stock 1911 (one of the 500 dollar jobbies) and do this work and have a pistol that shoots amazingly good. I would not be surprised if a 1911 like that shot as good or better than Wilson and Ed Brown customs that run 2 grand or so.

Don't buy things you don't need. Besides, most of those full length guide rod 1911s are a bastard to take apart, without a wrench or tools...not fun when you're in the field or at the range without tools.

Unless you're competiting...most of that other stuff is really unnecessary. Also, keep in mind that the tightly fitting, hyper-accurate 1911 at the range may lock up like crazy in the dirty field after lotsof use. 1911s are either built for extreme accuracy or reliability - its hard to have it both ways.

Don't pay attention to the gun magazines and advertisements...what do you want the pistol to do? Answer that...then go from there.

- Brickboy240