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Albert · 11-23-2005, 05:47 AM

1-I am not a Glock hater, but I just wanted to share this. I was at my range with my G23 and some Federal 155gr HydraShok factory loads when it happened. The classic 6 o'clock rupture. It blew the mag out of the well, the extractor went off to parts unknown. Once I got the slide unstuck the caserim was gone also but the remainder of the case was lodged in the chamber. My hands were red and hurting but alright. My pants had no stains, front or back

The gun, other than needing a new extractor and having the case removed is in working order. I think I'll stick to my XDs from now on.

Torch · 11-23-2005, 05:57 AM

Glocks once on top are now turning into old technology.

therooster · 11-23-2005, 06:52 AM

thats why you DONT buy a glock in .40

SLCDave · 11-23-2005, 08:39 AM

PLEASE notify Glock and have them check it out before you deem it "in woorking order". There may be microscopic cracks that you cannot see with the naked eye. If it blew up using regular ammo, and nothing is fishy, they will pay for everything just to cover their collective asses.

I do have to ask if the ammo had been chambered in the gun more than once. I've seen .40 S&W Hydra-Shok ammo set back in the case with just a couple chamberings of a round. It's kind of spooky if you ask me. Other than that, I like the ammo, but I switched to Gold Dots for that reason alone, and haven't seen the same type of setback.

ichy_trigger · 11-23-2005, 08:46 AM

mcb · 11-23-2005, 08:50 AM

Glad you were not hurt badly. I had my own KB experience here recently when I fired a double charged 40S&W (my own fault on that) in my Smith and Wesson 610 revolver. KB's are unpleasant for any reason. I second the sending it back to the manufacture for a checkup. I did so with my 610 and Smith and Wesson gave it a thorough check up and test firing, I'm sure Glock would do similar for you. Better safe than sorry.

mcb

Brickboy240 · 11-23-2005, 09:14 AM

Wow...I have always heard NOT to buy a Glock in 40SW.

This seems to happen more often than the stories you hear about Beretta slide separations, doesn't it?

- Brickboy240

SLCDave · 11-23-2005, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Wow...I have always heard NOT to buy a Glock in 40SW.

This seems to happen more often than the stories you hear about Beretta slide separations, doesn't it?

- Brickboy240

The reason is, Beretta corrected the design weakness that allowed this to happen. As long as Glock (or ANY manufacturer) uses a barrel that isn't fully supported for a high-pressure round like the .40 S&W, these things have potential to happen.

Albert · 11-23-2005, 10:58 AM

The gun has been checked thoroughly. The ammo was not rechambered repeatedly. It was headstamped FC instead of Federal which I learned was suspect ammo because it was manufactured with a design defect in the web area(read thin walls). Which in an unsupported chamber can, well you see what can happen. Federal redesigned the cases of the .40 and strengthened the web area and started stamping the cases Federal to denote the difference. I had the older boxes. So be careful. In .40, if it says FC, don't use it in a Glock. Its ok in other guns or aftermarket barrels.

TheWillis · 11-23-2005, 04:34 PM

"they" (see GT'ers) say that the "unsupported" chamber is a myth, and that the "cutout" at 6 o'clock is the reason that glocks are so reliable w/ such a variety of ammo.

I tend to agree w/ this, but I have had no problems w/ my XD (1400 rds) and would rather know my weapon is not going to blow up on me.

It seems there is a trade-off here and some people would like to be able to shoot whatever, and some want to keep their hands.

JMTC

11-23-2005, 05:47 AM	#1
Albert XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 38	First Hand Glock KB! 1-I am not a Glock hater, but I just wanted to share this. I was at my range with my G23 and some Federal 155gr HydraShok factory loads when it happened. The classic 6 o'clock rupture. It blew the mag out of the well, the extractor went off to parts unknown. Once I got the slide unstuck the caserim was gone also but the remainder of the case was lodged in the chamber. My hands were red and hurting but alright. My pants had no stains, front or back The gun, other than needing a new extractor and having the case removed is in working order. I think I'll stick to my XDs from now on.

11-23-2005, 05:57 AM	#2
Torch XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bedford,TX Posts: 161	Glocks once on top are now turning into old technology. __________________ XD SC .40, SA .45 GI High Cap, Kel-Tec P3AT .380

11-23-2005, 06:52 AM	#3
therooster XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: houston TX Posts: 1,669	thats why you DONT buy a glock in .40 __________________ live with honor, and let not your death be born by the pallbearers of disgrace, cruelty, weakness, and fear. - Justin Smith in a letter to Lt. Col. Dave Grossman TXDPSA

11-23-2005, 08:39 AM	#4
SLCDave XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 1,980	PLEASE notify Glock and have them check it out before you deem it "in woorking order". There may be microscopic cracks that you cannot see with the naked eye. If it blew up using regular ammo, and nothing is fishy, they will pay for everything just to cover their collective asses. I do have to ask if the ammo had been chambered in the gun more than once. I've seen .40 S&W Hydra-Shok ammo set back in the case with just a couple chamberings of a round. It's kind of spooky if you ask me. Other than that, I like the ammo, but I switched to Gold Dots for that reason alone, and haven't seen the same type of setback. __________________ We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate. Thomas Jefferson Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

11-23-2005, 08:46 AM	#5
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11-23-2005, 08:50 AM	#6
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,076	Glad you were not hurt badly. I had my own KB experience here recently when I fired a double charged 40S&W (my own fault on that) in my Smith and Wesson 610 revolver. KB's are unpleasant for any reason. I second the sending it back to the manufacture for a checkup. I did so with my 610 and Smith and Wesson gave it a thorough check up and test firing, I'm sure Glock would do similar for you. Better safe than sorry. mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

11-23-2005, 09:14 AM	#7
Brickboy240 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 9,853	Wow...I have always heard NOT to buy a Glock in 40SW. This seems to happen more often than the stories you hear about Beretta slide separations, doesn't it? - Brickboy240 __________________ The top 25% of wage earners in America pay 86% of all federal income taxes collected. (according to 2007 IRS website data) Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado Volvo...the Swedish Brick!

11-23-2005, 10:58 AM	#9
Albert XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 38	The gun has been checked thoroughly. The ammo was not rechambered repeatedly. It was headstamped FC instead of Federal which I learned was suspect ammo because it was manufactured with a design defect in the web area(read thin walls). Which in an unsupported chamber can, well you see what can happen. Federal redesigned the cases of the .40 and strengthened the web area and started stamping the cases Federal to denote the difference. I had the older boxes. So be careful. In .40, if it says FC, don't use it in a Glock. Its ok in other guns or aftermarket barrels.

11-23-2005, 04:34 PM	#10
TheWillis XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 354	"they" (see GT'ers) say that the "unsupported" chamber is a myth, and that the "cutout" at 6 o'clock is the reason that glocks are so reliable w/ such a variety of ammo. I tend to agree w/ this, but I have had no problems w/ my XD (1400 rds) and would rather know my weapon is not going to blow up on me. It seems there is a trade-off here and some people would like to be able to shoot whatever, and some want to keep their hands. JMTC

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