Limp wristing?

[prof_fate]

I had a few FTFeed shooting lefty with my XDm9 5.25 in the beginning of the PPC season. Not a problem since

Gut at the range bought his pistols for us to try out - kimber 45 carry, new berette 92, charles daly 45 full size. Kimber and daly had same ammo. Not a single issue for with the daly or beretta..the kimber? OMG what a POS. Tried 2 6 round mags...even after being warned about it's tendencey to stovepipe I had 2 in the first mag and one in the second. And this is his carry piece...stupid to have a unreliable gun (for him as well as me).
Four of us shot the guns, including 2 teens (one female, one male) and ALL had issues with teh kimber to one degree or another. Nobody had any issues with the daly and the teen girl had a few stovepipes with the beretta.

My 11 year old son has fired from my XD as has my non-shooter wife - nobody has had a stovepipe. I've shot factory ammo from a few different companies and over 2000 reloads of my one with 3 powders and 4 bullets. Only 2 left (weak) hand rounds stovepiped.

[richeyo2]

Originally Posted by dcgadams

ok i did a search and seems like the majority people agree with me. there should be no reason why a firearm would fail under adverse conditions when life depended on it. Limp wristing is not a factual fault it is something people make up to blame a gun fault on.

I call BS to limp wristing. it is the gun that malfunctions not the human when it fails to work properly. could be ammo but i am saying it is not the grip of the human. No engineer could design such a weapon to work based on how the grip funcitions. Look i don't want to beat this to death. My XDS does not fail so far and if it does and someone says my wrist is limp i will laugh as i box it up to send it to SA.

The question is what would SA say. does anyone have an official comment on this limp wristing from them?

Read more & you'll see what SA has said!

Originally Posted by agalindo

Spoken like someone who:
1. Knows little about simple phsyics.
2. Knows little how semi auto pistols work.
3. Have very limited experience with semi auto pistols.

+1 Agree.

(I'm no expert either & never claim to be.)

[Hake]

Originally Posted by r1derbike

If you get an XDS, and don't sign, return, and swear to uphold the rules of the included "man" card, find another weapon.

It's a small, light, short slide with hefty springs, requiring manhandling, and a firm grip on the weapon to function properly.

What part of this equation do a lot of shooters not understand?

There have been issues/failures that SA has been prompt to address, so the weapon isn't perfect.

But, there are other issues where shooters just need to grow a bigger pair of nuts.

Well said!

Sent from my Nexus 7

[ThumperMX113]

So now we are saying limp wristing is a myth that does not causes FTFs? Interesting..

[richeyo2]

Originally Posted by ThumperMX113

So now we are saying limp wristing is a myth that does not causes FTFs? Interesting..

That seems to be the verdict some have come too.

Limp wristing is real. I think some have egos to big to think that it's possible they could be doing it though... I keep saying it has nothing to do w/how big or strong you are.

[dcgadams]

Ok so i am LMA the guy said he had a bi tone which made him bi curious and he started to limp wrist.

All i am saying is that i have never apparently had a limp wrist. the video posted is the one i watched on limp wristing. seems like most guns did well and did not malfunction.

I just think it is funny and I like reading what people assume about me without knowing who i am. see i have a problem with a gun more than once i sell it and move on. I don't try to re engineer the gun. I won't try to limp wrist this gun as it would probably hurt.

I see that if you don't hold it at all yes maybe it would not cycle the next round. but if it is held somewhat it should cycle and if it does not i think back to the drawing board for the engineers. If a gun held in a hand of a woman or man has to depend on a certain grip then there should be a warning on the box before purchase. Gun may fail to fire properly if limp wristed

I can't help but to laugh maybe i am bi curious because of my bi tone xds. but with that being said i have never limp wristed and love my xds. Lets say a guy from SA does say something about limp wristing and it being a factor. How come this is not in the manual. If it is not then it is just speculation and an excuse for why a gun will malfunction.

Can someone show me where a gun manufacuturer states in writing that the gun may fail to cycle if not held properly. I am just asking as i am not going to search for it. If this is true it should be in the manual.

I am done you can call me every name in the book begining with inexperienced. But if you can't show documentation by a gun manuf. stating the min amount of resistance created by the grip for the gun to function properly then limp wristing to me is just a theory of why a gun does not perform.

No where in the XDS manual does it discuss grip pressure

[cce1302]

It's simple physics. The slide has to move to the rear with reference to the frame of the handgun. If the springs are stiff and the shooter allows the frame of the handgun to move to the rear along with the slide, then the slide will not cycle properly.


Why is this a difficult concept to understand?

[fedmanshooter]

I heard a quote once that comes to mind. You can keep your mouth shut and let everyone assume you are ignorant or you can open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[AKC]

Good lord some people just cant admit they are wrong.

Seems to happen pretty often on this forum.

[sqone]

Seems to me that some people hear the term "limp wrist" and the take it personally. When I here it or have that problem, I take it to mean I need to work on my technique, grip, stance. This is where a professional or video tape of you shooting can help. One thing that was said about this happening in a emergency situation, thats why practice and knowing your weapon is paramount.