XDM-9 vs. H&K P30

[JSR]

I am seriously considering both the new XDM-9 and the slightly less new H&K P30, and would appreciate hearing the opinions of anyone who faced, or is facing, that same choice.

[XDfan4ever]

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Well, the H&K P30 is $240+ more money. And holds 4 less rnds. in the mag. Also, consider that SA will send you 2 more mags & a mag pouch for FREE. "Gear-Up Promo". And, The XD-M comes with a pretty decent paddle holster, 2 mags, mag pouch and a LIFETIME Warranty. Me? I would buy the XDM-9. It's your money though.
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[rrent]

I have one of each.

I don't think you will find enough difference to make up the extra cost of the H&K --the XDm shoots great and is the best "back on target" gun I own. It comes with two free mags. Made in Croatia ---where is that?

The H&K has the mag release on the trigger guard, if the slide is locked back it does release and chamber a round by inserting the mag (firmly,not necessarily slam'ed) ---side and back grip panels --you can tailor left to right side swells. ---all in all great gun. German craftsmanship.

If I could only keep one it would be a very hard decision for me to pick the one I would keep ----but since I could sell the used P30 for more than a used XDm, I guess I'd end up keeping the XDm.

so in summary I am dead in the middle ---you can't go wrong with either

[Flyfishtom]

My only complaints with the P30 were the controls and trigger placement. The controls were not in the same place as other guns I own and my finger rubbed on the trigger guard. I did not like the take down. I don't like having to take parts off to get the gun apart. The P30 certainly shoots well but I am very, very happy with my XDM's and wouldn't part with either of them.

[tcroc]

What are you gonna' mainly use it for ??
Target ,,XDm
Carry ,HK

I'd go HK just cause it's alot smaller..the XDm is a TANK and of coarse you gonn'a get pushed more for the Xdm,,look what site your on ,lol

[ranburr]

The H&K is one of the best feeling and pointing pistols out there. But, it is still an H&K. The good: as reliable and robust as anything made. The bad: triggers are poor (in my opinion), funky de-cocker, zero customer service, and very exspensive and limited accessories (mags, spare parts, etc). The XDM wins out on price, customer service, accessories, and trigger.

ranburr

[TRMN8R]

While XDfan4ever does make some strong points for the XDM, he is not giving you a complete picture of the P30.

First off, I'm not sure where he's getting his price (probably basing it on the full MSRP), but the P30 is NOT $240+ more than the XDM. CDNN has the P30 LS (the more expensive of the two P30's) for $769. That's only about $160 more than the blued XDM, and only a little over $100 more than a bi-tone goes for.

The guns themselves, although they do share a polymer-type frame, are completely different pistols. The XDM is a DAO/dual-action type trigger set, whereas the P30 is a DA/SA Variant 3 trigger group with a rear frame placed decocker, like that on the P2000.

The P30 also has standard luminova-type night sights (standard) rather than triple white dot, and has (IMESHO) a better POA/POI placement.

And though the XDM's redesigned frame with interchangable backstraps is drastic improvement over the standard XD, the P30 not only has interchangable backstraps, it also sports interchangable grip panels that give it a superb, comfortable feel for any shooter.

While the XDM does have an ambidextrous magazine release, the P30 also has ambidextrous slide controls, which can be essential in one-handed shooting, especially if the primary firing hand/arm takes damage.

Rather than the non-captive single spring guide rod assembly the XDM has, the P30 has an additional buffer (the "HK recoil reduction system") which will reduce felt recoil by as much as 30%, resulting in a more pleasant shooting experience in general, but also much faster re-aquisition of target and tighter shot placement.

Quality of an HK pistol is well above about any other handgun (at least in a comparable price range, but especially over ones below them), but that's also what makes them cost-prohibitive to some; if cost isn't an issue, then absolutely get the P30. It offers far more for the money. However, if you really need five more rounds (over the already 15+1 you get), then you clearly need more practice, not more magazines.

Lastly, ALL HK pistols also come with a Lifetime Warranty, as do most modern handguns from just about every other manufacturer.

Just my .02...

[Wetworx]

Personally, I think the P30 loses a bit of versatility from the P2000 and USP models. You no longer have as many useful (I think there are 7 variants). There is a decocker variant (v3), but in the USP and P2000 series, you could carry a la 1911-style. So, if you're strictly comparing the XD(m)-9 vs the P30, I think I'd go with the XD(m). I happen to have a USPc .45 and think it's a nice gun, but I'm not a huge fan of the magazine release system that HK has implemented in the latest series of guns (Walther did the same with the PPS). It just isn't natural-feeling to have the magazine release on the rear of the trigger guard and requiring you to press/pull downward. I personally believe that if you're looking to develop muscle memory for utilizing a firearm in a tactical situation (which isn't everyone's use, of course), you will fall short with the HK design, unless you only use it (and no other pistols) to shoot and carry. Just my $0.02. Happy shopping!

[Cuda66]

Having had an XD-M (given it was a .40, but...same thing really) and found it lacking, I'd go with the P30.

I like prefer the HK-style mag release that the P7M-/USP/P2000/P30/HK45 sereis have over the original 1911-style; I like that I can drop a mag with my trigger finger without having to shift my grip, like I do on the traditional mag releases.

I also really, really, really like how the P30 feels in my hand. It's a natural pointer.

Triggers...actually, both trigggers could be improved. It's a toss-up between the two, with, perhaps a slight edge to the P30...if you like DA/SA.

19 vs 15 round capacity...eh. To quote Lord John Emdall in Buckaroo Banzai..."So what. Big deal.".

And, HK's non-LEO/M customer service has improved massively in the past couple of years.

So, all in all, go for the P30.

[rrent]

Size is close XDm a little longer barrel, grips is almost exactly the same: