XDm 9mm 3.8 vs XD SC 9mm?

[richeyo2]

I've never shot an XD SC before.
I own five XDm's two of which are compacts 9mm & .45. I use the medium backstrap on both for CC & shorter mags w/Pearce grip extensions. I love all my XDm's & have never looked back since buying my first one 2-1/2yrs. ago.
Get & shoot what feels best in your hands.

[Tara]

Great links and info! Part 3 seemed to have all the important info. I would like to find a good video on the proper way to hold a J-frame. I'm trying to hold my model 36 with the thumbs-forward grip in the video (this is exactly the way I was taught for the XD), but it seems a little awkward.
I guess the Panteo video you were talking about was the one called Bob Vogel vs Jessie Abbate (I can't post a link since I only have 5 posts on the forum...) If there is another I missed it.
I need to look into texturing add-ons.
Thanks again!

[SmokedBMW]

The thumbs forward grip is not for revolvers. Check out this video as well, if you can get the full dvd it's even better.

Magpul Dynamics - Art of the Dynamic Handgun - YouTube

Magpul Dynamics - Art of the Dynamic Handgun - YouTube

Here's a pic of my XDm with PRP rubber grips, best $15 I've spent.

[Tara]

Thanks for the link!! I looked for a while last night and didn't find these--they look like just the ticket!
DVD looks great too--will search YouTube for more by them.
Great info, thanks!

[TSiWRX]

^ I honestly think that the Magpul The Art of the Dynamic Handgun DVD series is worth the the investment, for any new handgunner.

There's a lot that's been posted on YouTube, but the full DVD series does make for good reference material. I must have watched that thing for a dozen times before my first live training class, and it truly did help.

I still watch the DVDs, before I attend higher-intensity classes. I find that it helps me, as a visual learner, reinforce what I've learned in past classes by watching it over again, which in turn helps calm pre-class jitters/nervousness for me. As an academic scientist who has never had any military/law-enforcement training, even today, after what many would consider a decent amount of training, I still feel out-classed, whenever I go to such courses.


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Originally Posted by Tara

I would like to find a good video on the proper way to hold a J-frame. I'm trying to hold my model 36 with the thumbs-forward grip in the video (this is exactly the way I was taught for the XD), but it seems a little awkward.

With revolvers, like surf said in his 3-part series, you really do need to lock down both thumbs with revolvers - the thumb-over-thumb grip is pretty much necessary for nothing if not the cylinder and the cylinder gap: fingers there can both impede the rotation of the cylinder, leading to misfire/malfunction, as well as cause you significant injury:

is the cylinder gap on a revolver dangerous? - Shooters Forum

It's easy to remember: "Revolver = No Thumb!"

I guess the Panteo video you were talking about was the one called Bob Vogel vs Jessie Abbate (I can't post a link since I only have 5 posts on the forum...) If there is another I missed it.

Yup, that's the one!

It really doesn't matter if it's a woman or a man, adult or child. Technique is used to enhance sheer grip strength, which will, simply because we're all human, eventually fail, no matter how strong we are.

Panteao's video made it seem like Vogel just uses sheer strength - that's not the case. They're just doing it for good fun and publicity. Take one of Bob's classes, and you'll see just how much thought he gives to technique, which is something that every top-tier shooter, I can assure you, has quite a bit of!

[Tara]

Okay, you sold me on the DVD set!! I'm definitely a visual learner and like to take my time and rewind and really absorb things. I found it on Amazon for $37 incl. shipping. After reading the reviews on Amazon and your input, I'm really excited about watching it! Years ago I taught myself to shoot skeet from a cassette tape and a little book, and shot 24/25 almost right away.

I have a $25/month subscription to lynda.com which is an unbelievable training value. I originally got it to learn Photoshop, but it's so much more--lots and lots of technical training videos, and even stuff like How to Buy and Sell on eBay, setting up a wireless network, etc. If you like video training, you'd probably like lynda.com!
In trying to find a video on how to hold a revolver, I found one by Hickock on how NOT to hold one that was pretty informative--at least on where NOT to hold it.

Thanks for the great info!

[TSiWRX]

^ Hey, thanks for that tip!!!! I'll have to check that out!

Hope you like the Magpul DVDs as much as I did (and still do)!

I came to firearms from a paintball/airsoft background (yes, I'm an adult who played [and wishes to one day again be able to have the money/time to play paintball and airsoft! ] those games recreationally, as well as collected high-end airsoft replicas [I don't yet own a 1911, but I own replica 1911s that cost as much as an actual Wilson ]), so I was somewhat skeptical bout the Magpul DVDs, thinking that it would simply be glitzy marketing material and "tacticool" puff.

But so many of my good friends recommended it, that I figured I should give it a try.

Boy am I glad I did!

I'm not a Magpul/Costa/Haley fanboi - but I really do like the way they present the material, and I hold their teachings in very high regard.

[Tara]

Thanks to SmokedBMW and TSiWRX for recommending the Magpul DVD. I watched the first (of 4!) last night and today and it's really great. A lot of it is consistent with what I learned in my Basic II class recently, but I think I like the malfunctions methodology they present on the DVD better. My class taught the double-feed fix (w/o the locking the slide back first) for everything except a stovepipe, and with a little practice the DVD method makes more sense. Of course most of the students in the DVD were professional gun-toten dudes; we were not. Hopefully I'll never have to throw myself onto gravel and shoot under a car, but just thinking through those scenarios is helpful. I really appreciate that they kept the sound of the gunfire low, unlike every YouTube video review I've watched.

Lots of great info on this forum!!!

[TSiWRX]

^ Glad you're enjoying the DVDs!

Remember that Magpul is but one school - there's lots out there, and different instructors do things differently. Choose what best fits your lifestyle, your needs, how your body works, etc.

I learned the "diagnostic method" for malfunctions, first.

It works really, really well, and it's definitely fast. Efficient. For lack of better words, it's Haley saying "taking the time to give the gun the right answer."

In training classes, I've definitely excelled, with this method.

I fear, however, that during a real-life critical-stress event, I may not be able to properly think my way through this methodology. As a result, I've tried to ingrain the non-diagnostic method.

I think that it's a definite plus in knowing the diagnostic method and to be able to perform diagnostic corrections effectively and efficiently. But I also think that it's very, very important to be able to perform the non-diagnostic method, as I truly think it's more rigorous.

Take a bit of time to go through the videos on the late Paul Gomez's YouTube Channel. He was a very, very thoughtful trainer, and I think his reasoning for approaching malfunctions in the non-diagnostic method is very logical and reasonable.

[Tara]

I'll check out Paul Gomez--thanks again!