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Unsure whether to get 9mm or 40SW, noticable recoil difference with these loads?

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Old 03-23-2012, 03:48 PM   #1
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Unsure whether to get 9mm or 40SW, noticable recoil difference with these loads?

I got a 13 ounce, 357 Magnum j-frame on my 21st birthday. The recoil is blood-inducing and now I know that the short barrel limits the performance and increases the flash, bang, and recoil. I shot a full-size 9mm XD-M a few times last year and I always wanted one and now I can afford one.

Now I'm divided as to whether I should get the 9mm or 40SW. From my understanding premium JHP's form both loads will do their job as long as I do mine (shot placement). Nevertheless, I've also read in many documents that the 40SW still has a slight performance edge for defense.

I'm set on Cor-Bon Self-Defense JHP bullets either way (from my present understanding). The shooting range doesn't rent firearms anymore. How much greater is the recoil of the 40SW than the 9mm?

The baseline for comparison is:
Caliber: 9mm +P
Bullet Wt.: 115gr
Velocity: 1350fps
Energy: 466ftlbs

Compared to:
Caliber: 40 S&W
Bullet Wt.: 135gr
Velocity: 1325fps
Energy: 526ftlbs

and

Caliber: 40 S&W

Bullet Wt.: 150gr
Velocity: 1200fps
Energy: 480ftlbs


You can probably infer from this that high-capacity and supersonic speeds are important factors in my consumer choices.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:01 PM   #2
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I own the XDm .40S&W 4.5 (full) and 3.8 (compact). I love both guns and the recoil is not bad at all, as long as you practice and practice more. I've shot the 9mm and it is definitely a difference, but the difference is not a world's difference. But the .40 is a high pressure round, so there is going to be a little muzzle flip and recoil when comparing to the 9. But with proper grip and practice, I now prefer the .40, the way it feels when shooting.

I truly believe it is going to be down to your own personal preference, you should try to get exposed to both rounds and determine for yourself. I jumped to the .40 and practiced with it and I'm comfortable with it. I prefer the "punch" from the .40 (good compromise between the 9 and .45, higher capacity but with larger bullets to throw down range). But if you feel that you cannot manage the .40 and be accurate with practice over time, then go with the 9. But again, I would try to get exposed to both rounds and make a decision. Good luck!
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:26 PM   #3
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It's not much on a .40 cal.


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Old 03-23-2012, 06:43 PM   #4
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go for it, 45 all the way!!!

Not a lot of recoil with the 5.25 45acp xdm. Check this out
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:49 PM   #5
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I got a 13 ounce, 357 Magnum j-frame on my 21st birthday. The recoil is blood-inducing and now I know that the short barrel limits the performance and increases the flash, bang, and recoil. I shot a full-size 9mm XD-M a few times last year and I always wanted one and now I can afford one.

Now I'm divided as to whether I should get the 9mm or 40SW. From my understanding premium JHP's form both loads will do their job as long as I do mine (shot placement). Nevertheless, I've also read in many documents that the 40SW still has a slight performance edge for defense.

I'm set on Cor-Bon Self-Defense JHP bullets either way (from my present understanding). The shooting range doesn't rent firearms anymore. How much greater is the recoil of the 40SW than the 9mm?

The baseline for comparison is:
Caliber: 9mm +P
Bullet Wt.: 115gr
Velocity: 1350fps
Energy: 466ftlbs

Compared to:
Caliber: 40 S&W
Bullet Wt.: 135gr
Velocity: 1325fps
Energy: 526ftlbs

and

Caliber: 40 S&W
Bullet Wt.: 150gr
Velocity: 1200fps
Energy: 480ftlbs


You can probably infer from this that high-capacity and supersonic speeds are important factors in my consumer choices.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:02 PM   #6
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Don't know if economics is a factor for you, but 9mm are less expensive, and for me, the more I shoot the more comfortable I am with the weapon. Being comfortable with your weapon when the pressure is on is VERY important. High velocity holes in the air are of little value. Get what you will shoot regularly. Or at least that would be my recommendation.

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Old 03-24-2012, 05:29 PM   #7
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Sounds to me the XDM9 would be the best choice for you. The 9mm is a little more easy on a new shooter and again more economial ammo lets you shoot more.

Later you will want to move up to the .40 or the .45acp.
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Growing up shooting 1911's and now owning several 9mm's. After shooting various 40's I find it to not be so much of a middle ground between the two rounds.

I personally find the 40 to take the worst aspects of both the .45 and 9mm and put them together. Has the recoil from the .45 and the muzzle flip from the 9mm. I have never been a fan of the .40. Just my personal preference... I am sure there are many that disagree with me and that is OK also.
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Sounds to me the XDM9 would be the best choice for you. The 9mm is a little more easy on a new shooter and again more economial ammo lets you shoot more.

Later you will want to move up to the .40 or the .45acp.
I've been shooting handguns for 17 years and prefer the 9mm over the 40..
I don't care for the muzzle flip of the 40 at all..

I've owned 2, Sig P229 and XD40 service, and sold them both.
The only asset the 40 has is that many can be converted to 357sig by just a barrel change using the same 40 mags.
One of my first handguns was a Sig P229, bought in 40cal.
Swapped the 40cal barrel with a stock 357sig barrel and never shot 40 thru it again.
357sig is a bit hot and expensive to shoot, but a fun round to put downrange.

And just to throw this in there, I prefer a 147gr 9mm Ranger T bullet for my carry nines.

Bullet: 147 grain, reversed tapered jacket
Jacket Weight: 17 % of total bullet weight.
Powder: Low flash, clean burning.
Primer: Winchester non-corrosive primer
Accuracy: Product mean of 1.50” Extreme Spread – Five shot targets at 50 yards from a SAAMI test barrel.
Velocity: 990 ft/sec nominal at 15 ft using a SAAMI standard 4” test barrel (995 ft/sec muzzle velocity).
Muzzle Energy: 323 ft-lb.

When and if one wants to move up a caliber, I'd recommend going straight to 45acp and bypassing the 40cal entirely..JMHO..


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Growing up shooting 1911's and now owning several 9mm's. After shooting various 40's I find it to not be so much of a middle ground between the two rounds.

I personally find the 40 to take the worst aspects of both the .45 and 9mm and put them together. Has the recoil from the .45 and the muzzle flip from the 9mm. I have never been a fan of the .40. Just my personal preference... I am sure there are many that disagree with me and that is OK also.
I agree for the most part.
But I feel the 40 has more upward muzzle flip recoil than the 9mm.
The 45s I've owned, XD45 compact and 1911s, have a pleasant push back recoil.
I feel the 45 is more controllable than the 40cal.
You're not alone in your dislike of the 40cal as a whole..
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:45 PM   #10
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There is a difference in recoil between the 9mm and the .40. I don't know if the difference in recoil is enough to be a deciding factor in your purchase.
The bigger question is: What are you going to use it for? If strictly target shooting, then go with the 9, the ammo is cheaper.
If self-defense, then I would go with the .40. There is a reason most of the police departments and the FBI changed from the 9 to the .40. The 9 was percieved as not having enough knock-down power.
Yes I know all the arguements: shot placement verses power. However the FBI seems to think the 9 did not have the knock-down power; even with good shot placement.
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