compare the xdm9 to the M&P 9mm please! - XDTalk Forums

JurisMyDiction · 12-25-2009, 05:11 PM

hi, looking to make a purchase this weekend and was strongly considering the M&P. i've read a lot about it and it seems that for what i'm looking for, bth guns are pretty evenly matched.

i'm looking to start shooting IDPA at a local event they have around my area. now please keep in mind that the XDM is much more expensive than the M&P

i already have an XDM in .40 but want something in 9mm to shoot the competitions. i don't want to use a barrel conversion because from what i've read on the forum the extractor is a bit too far from the rim pf the round and it can have FTE's... i don't feel like dealing with that, plus i'd liek to have a gun i can reliably carry as WELL as shoot IDPA (after all, isn't that what idpa is all about? getting good with what you carry?)

p.s. if they don't change the forum back to how it used to be soon i don't think i can post here any more. i get a headache after reading every post!

zlzgrom86 · 12-25-2009, 05:19 PM

i dont think m&p has a cocked indicator, and the bullet loaded indicator is just a window instead of a thing you can feel

JurisMyDiction · 12-25-2009, 06:08 PM

thanks. to be more specific, i meant to ask would it be more beneficial to spend the extra cash on another xdm, or would the m&p be a better choice (more pros use the m&p for idpa than do XD's according to this Top 10 Most Popular IDPA Guns IDPA Shooting Blog) while this doesn't necessarily mean the gun is better, it helps convice me considering the price diff.

zlzgrom86 · 12-25-2009, 06:21 PM

That list says glock is chosen more than anything, and everyone knows its because of brand mumbo jumbo. just like Apple computers. I have a laptop that that cost me less than half of what the lowest model macbook is, yet it is just as powerful, and its sturdy too. so why do people by ipods and macbooks vs other name brands? well the size of the advertising department has a lot to do with it.

i know with the m&p you get 2 extra mags (besides what it comes with anyway) for free using some rebate thing. it does have a mag disconnect safety though, and not as many rounds as the xdm, but some people like the grip better. its just something you have to try for yourself i guess.

JurisMyDiction · 12-25-2009, 07:38 PM

what do you mean by mag disconnect safety? funny you should say that, i'm typing on a mac at the moment. but that's the thing. i don't see why the XDM is not used more, it has a match barrel and what not. yet the M&P is cheaper and it is used more.

**GunnBugg** · 12-25-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JurisMyDiction

hi, looking to make a purchase this weekend and was strongly considering the M&P. i've read a lot about it and it seems that for what i'm looking for, bth guns are pretty evenly matched.

i'm looking to start shooting IDPA at a local event they have around my area. now please keep in mind that the XDM is much more expensive than the M&P

i already have an XDM in .40 but want something in 9mm to shoot the competitions. i don't want to use a barrel conversion because from what i've read on the forum the extractor is a bit too far from the rim pf the round and it can have FTE's... i don't feel like dealing with that, plus i'd liek to have a gun i can reliably carry as WELL as shoot IDPA (after all, isn't that what idpa is all about? getting good with what you carry?)

p.s. if they don't change the forum back to how it used to be soon i don't think i can post here any more. i get a headache after reading every post!

WOW! You're right! This is very difficult to deal with. What a BAD color scheme. Just because it works to advertise the XD doesn't mean it works for a forum....

The M&P isn't really comparable to the XDM. The M&P Pro is. The M&P Pro comes with fiber sights, much improved trigger over the M&P, and a 5" bbl. The M&P has a 4" bbl, IIRC. The Pro is more comparable in price to the M as well.

The M&P will give you more versatility because it can shoot in SSP or ESP whereas the M cannot. The M&P Pro is only available in 9mm. The M&P is not as easy to get after market parts for but Speed Shooter Specialites has some pretty good stuff for it. Some of the parts, such as the recoil system can use Glock parts.

The M&P has ambi slide release and reversable mag release. My Pro tends to launch 50 fps slower than my XD Tactical and my Glock 34, which tend to get similar performance on all loads. The power drop could be very different from gun to gun of the same model, but I'd bet it is generally lower.

Other than the M&P's ability to shoot in two divisions, I don't know if one has any serious advantages over the other unless you need the ambidextrous feature. I have XDm and the M&P Pro, and I'd prob go with the Pro if I had to choose, because I like longer guns and I like the ergs just a tad better and you can shoot it in SSP and ESP. But I much prefer the XD Tactical with a PRP trigger to either of them. But, it requires a second gun for SSP. But I use the XD Tac for ESP and G34 for SSP.

I would not buy a std M&P. The Pro is really good right out of the box, esp with a little polishing.

JurisMyDiction · 12-25-2009, 07:47 PM

so because i don't necessarily want to spend a crap ton of money, would you suggest a standard M&P or a xdm service?

i don't plan on being professional but i feel like anything 9mm will be better than the xdm .40 i have as far as competitive shooting. mayb i'll just use my .45c! how many rounds can i have in idpa anyway?

thanks for the excellent reply btw!

does anyone have any imput on a 9mm conversion? will that put me in a different class?

zlzgrom86 · 12-25-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JurisMyDiction

what do you mean by mag disconnect safety?

the pistol will not fire if the magazine is not inside

JurisMyDiction · 12-25-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zlzgrom86

the pistol will not fire if the magazine is not inside

ok as long as it's not like the bersa i used to have where to drop the mag you have to push it up toward the slide.

slammr · 12-25-2009, 09:27 PM

I have an M&P 9 compact and it shoots very similarly to my XDM 40 but more controllable. You can get the M&P without the mag disconnect mechanism and with a thumb safety. The compact is my carry gun as it is much lighter and smaller that the XDM. If you are looking to save money go with the M&P. I do believe the Springfield beats the S&W on overall quality of construction. The XD9c is also a great shooter (and less money) and I believe the stock trigger is actually better than that on XDM.