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Breech feed; slide wont close when released slowly. Normal?

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Old 11-25-2012, 10:44 PM   #21
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Good christ... it's a spring... how in the heck do you screw up the tention of a spring operating within it's designed dimensions?!
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:46 AM   #22
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Good christ... it's a spring... how in the heck do you screw up the tention of a spring operating within it's designed dimensions?!
You screw it up by operating it beyond its designed limits!

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:48 AM   #23
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You screw it up by operating it beyond its designed limits!

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agreed (much like anything), but when would that ever happen?
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:50 AM   #24
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agreed (much like anything), but when would that ever happen?
The extractor is not designed for breech feeding, doing it over flexes the extractor.

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:54 AM   #25
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The extractor is not designed for breech feeding, doing it over flexes the extractor.

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then why design it as a spring, and give it room to flex?
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:03 PM   #26
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then why design it as a spring, and give it room to flex?
Taken directly from the owner's manual, downloaded from the Springfield Armory website:

WARNING: Improperly loading the XD by
manually inserting a round in the chamber may
cause accidental discharge and possible damage
to the extractor. Always load the firearm using the
magazine. When loading the firearm, always point
the muzzle in a safe direction.

The best reason to not breachload is because a person who is much smarter than you designed the pistol and said not to. Argument over. If this individual is wrong then please make your own pistol, market it and earn a fortune.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:33 PM   #27
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whatever blows your hair back Jon. I bet pounds to pesos that the person who designed the extractor (in Croatia, likely the same person who designed the rest of the gun) did not write the Owners Manual... It's littlered with "save my arse" speak.

"MAY cause accidental discharge...POSSIBLE damage to the extractor..."

lol. spooky language... SPOOKY LANGUAGE!!!

It doesn't take a genius to design an extractor, and i'm pretty sure you realize that. The facts are it's spring steel, it has an area to flex within, and by God it's not going to break by breach feeding. if it wasn't designed to take the tolerance, it would have broken on at least mine by now, if not many others. I'll be honest, i don't see a lot of "my extractor broke breach feeding" complaints on the internet. I wonder how many SA gets back with broken extractors from breach feeding.

anyone else have an owner's manual from some other firearm that says DO NOT BREACH LOAD? i'm curious on those designs as well...
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:58 AM   #28
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whatever blows your hair back Jon. I bet pounds to pesos that the person who designed the extractor (in Croatia, likely the same person who designed the rest of the gun) did not write the Owners Manual... It's littlered with "save my arse" speak.

"MAY cause accidental discharge...POSSIBLE damage to the extractor..."

lol. spooky language... SPOOKY LANGUAGE!!!

It doesn't take a genius to design an extractor, and i'm pretty sure you realize that. The facts are it's spring steel, it has an area to flex within, and by God it's not going to break by breach feeding. if it wasn't designed to take the tolerance, it would have broken on at least mine by now, if not many others. I'll be honest, i don't see a lot of "my extractor broke breach feeding" complaints on the internet. I wonder how many SA gets back with broken extractors from breach feeding.

anyone else have an owner's manual from some other firearm that says DO NOT BREACH LOAD? i'm curious on those designs as well...

You won't see many returned to SA for broken extractors caused by breech feeding. Most people read the manual and know its not a good thing to do!

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Old 11-27-2012, 10:40 AM   #29
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You won't see many returned to SA for broken extractors caused by breech feeding. Most people read the manual and know its not a good thing to do!

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Do you really believe that?
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Do you really believe that?
Before I even function-checked it, I read the manual cover-to-cover. I don't feel the need to trial-and-error my way through the do's and don'ts of a firearm. If you don't read the manual, it's your own d*** fault.
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