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fredj338 · 05-10-2008, 08:34 AM

Back in the day, Barsto was one of the few suppliers of semi & custom bbls. for diff. pistols. Today there are a few other players & most are very good. I have a SL in my USP & it's very accurate. I also have Barsto in my 1911 & BHP, accuracy is scary, the single best thing you can do to a stock BHP IMO is add a Barsto bbl. It's not just "bling".

Jim B · 05-10-2008, 09:45 AM

I wish I had the link, I was reading about some barrel manufacturer in Europe (I THINK it's a German mfg?). They design and test their barrels in a jig....not in a pistol frame....they are a BARREL manufacturer not a pistol manufacturer, their intent is to make very high quality barrels (for race guns as I recall). Their achieved accuracy was something like 2" at 50 yds, it might have even been better than that, but as I said, if I had the link I'd be referencing it here so people could look it up themselves. I thought jig testing was very very ingenious. After all, if the barrel is capable of that kind of accuracy in itself then the next step is to mate it to a a slide/frame assembly to allow it to continue to continue produce those results as closely as possible.

Obviously we all know the variables such as those introduced with different cartridges have to be optimized, so if we assume the optimum load/bullet/etc/etc has been obtained (for us who are reloaders), it remains that barrel manufacturers and gunsmiths who want to produce a product that shoots as consistently as possible and properly fit them will give us better accuracy.....but % wise, how much for a given cartridge over a stock barrel. Personally, and this is just me.......I'd love a pistol that has a match/race gun grade barrel, properly fitted to my frame and coated with the same finish as the rest of the pistol.....it would drive tacks but look stone stock........but then I like older looking cars with oversized high performance engines/drive trains in them, too

J

dsonyay · 05-10-2008, 07:49 PM

You are probably thinking of Lothar Walther barrels. They make terrific airgun barrels but I don't know much about their barrels for centerfire/rimfire.

You can't see it very well, but the group in my avater is typical of what my XD does from sandbags. I still have a stock barrel in my XD45 Service and it shoots about 1.5 inches at 25yds from sandbags. I've done it over and over since owning the gun. Wish I could shoot like this unsupported! I too thought about getting a match grade barrel, but not as long as the stock barrel shoots like this. I think mine is a freak of nature. Not sure if any others have this sort of accuracy.

btw: that is 3 shots, not two. This target was shot at 12.5 yds not 25.

05-10-2008, 08:34 AM	#11
fredj338 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 939	Back in the day, Barsto was one of the few suppliers of semi & custom bbls. for diff. pistols. Today there are a few other players & most are very good. I have a SL in my USP & it's very accurate. I also have Barsto in my 1911 & BHP, accuracy is scary, the single best thing you can do to a stock BHP IMO is add a Barsto bbl. It's not just "bling". __________________ EVERY GOOD SHOOTER SHOULD BE A HANDLOADER!

05-10-2008, 09:45 AM	#12
Jim B XDTalk Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: MI Posts: 88	I wish I had the link, I was reading about some barrel manufacturer in Europe (I THINK it's a German mfg?). They design and test their barrels in a jig....not in a pistol frame....they are a BARREL manufacturer not a pistol manufacturer, their intent is to make very high quality barrels (for race guns as I recall). Their achieved accuracy was something like 2" at 50 yds, it might have even been better than that, but as I said, if I had the link I'd be referencing it here so people could look it up themselves. I thought jig testing was very very ingenious. After all, if the barrel is capable of that kind of accuracy in itself then the next step is to mate it to a a slide/frame assembly to allow it to continue to continue produce those results as closely as possible. Obviously we all know the variables such as those introduced with different cartridges have to be optimized, so if we assume the optimum load/bullet/etc/etc has been obtained (for us who are reloaders), it remains that barrel manufacturers and gunsmiths who want to produce a product that shoots as consistently as possible and properly fit them will give us better accuracy.....but % wise, how much for a given cartridge over a stock barrel. Personally, and this is just me.......I'd love a pistol that has a match/race gun grade barrel, properly fitted to my frame and coated with the same finish as the rest of the pistol.....it would drive tacks but look stone stock........but then I like older looking cars with oversized high performance engines/drive trains in them, too J __________________ Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. - C.S. Lewis

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05-10-2008, 07:49 PM	#13
dsonyay XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Slidell LA Posts: 97	You are probably thinking of Lothar Walther barrels. They make terrific airgun barrels but I don't know much about their barrels for centerfire/rimfire. You can't see it very well, but the group in my avater is typical of what my XD does from sandbags. I still have a stock barrel in my XD45 Service and it shoots about 1.5 inches at 25yds from sandbags. I've done it over and over since owning the gun. Wish I could shoot like this unsupported! I too thought about getting a match grade barrel, but not as long as the stock barrel shoots like this. I think mine is a freak of nature. Not sure if any others have this sort of accuracy. btw: that is 3 shots, not two. This target was shot at 12.5 yds not 25.