Got my extra power AGP mag springs

[kraigster414]

Originally Posted by Tx1911

Kraigster,

I have been looking for someone to make a spring for the XD 45 full size mag and the compact mag. Is their anyway you can post a pic of the 13 round spring beside the cut 10 round compact spring ?

Here you go. Shown below is the AGP 13 round XD45 magazine spring and to its right, the 10 round compact with a coil cut. I now have these same springs in all my XD45 magazines (13-round and 10-round compact) and they are performing perfectly and for some reason, no more light strikes. Compare the AGP's to your OEM 13-round and OEM 10-round compact mag springs and you see a big difference in length. Sorry, but you'll have to do that one yourself.

[Tx1911]

Thanks a million Kraigster !

[kraigster414]

Originally Posted by Tx1911

Thanks a million Kraigster !

Anything for my fellow XDTalk members. Now go compare the AGP lengths to your stock and preferably unfired 13 and 10 round springs. Big difference huh?

It's funny when someone has a functioning problem with their semi auto, e.g., FTF, slide not returning to full battery, light strikes, etc., the last thing they typically consider are their magazines springs. We rarely clean them, examine them periodically, know what to look for or when to change them, etc. yet springs CAN be (emphasis on "can") be the source of one or more problems. Fortunately, it's a quick and inepxensive fix. I recommend to anyone who would like to have a stronger mag spring for whatever reason to give the $6 AGP a try. It might just be the "silver bullet." As I mentioned, all my XD45 mag now have AGP springs in them. I have kept the old and weaker OEM springs but I doubt if I will ever need them again.

I have zero to do with AGP, just passing on information that may be of help.

[kraigster414]

Topping for those who messaged.

Don't let this one disappear. I think it's important.

[kraigster414]

Another 300 rounds of same/same reloads (this makes well over 500 rounds since changing to the heavier XD45 AGP mag springs) and not one single light strike. I have changed nothing, same primer, same bullet, same seating depth, same powder charge. I am of the opinion now that changing to a heavier mag spring should be the first thing you should do if you are experiencing the occassional light strike, thant any checking to see if your primers are properly seated. Some presses/primer seaters and primers do a better job of this than others.

[Kaboom]

I think your hypoxia is showing.

[Semp]

"I am of the opinion now that changing to a heavier mag spring should be the first thing you should do if you are experiencing the occassional light strike, thant any checking to see if your primers are properly seated."

Well, time for a dumb newbie question.

How does stronger mag springs cure a light strike on the primer? I thought light primer strikes was the result of a weak firing pin spring??? (assuming the primer is seated correctly)

[kraigster414]

Originally Posted by Kaboom

I think your hypoxia is showing.

I have plenty of oxygen thank you. I suggest you try the stronger mag springs to see to see if it makes a difference. It won't break the bank. Don't have a problem? Then this really doesn't apply to you - for most it probably doesn't.

To answer the second poster's question (not a dumb question at all), I too never saw a connection but reloads can be a problem with any semi auto - choice of primer, crimp, seating depth, powder, etc. can play a role. As I mentioned before I had a habit of experiencing a few light strikes out of ever 100 rounds or so. Since switching to a higher power mag springs, the problem has disappeared. Is the higher power spring doing a better job of propelling those less than full sized cases into the chamber (keep in mind with reloads cases there is a small area of the base that is not sized)? Perhaps. Certainly worth a try for 6 bucks. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. File this under the category of potential fixes.

[xd 45acp]

I put one in the factory 13rd magazine and it is a lot stronger than the factory spring. Getting the 13th round in is tough but I guess after I use them for a while they may get a little easier. It also take quite a bit of muscle to get the fully loade mag into the gun. I am going to cut one coil and try one in a 10rd mag. If you want to feel a mushy mag spring try one of the M&P mags. I have a M&P 45 and so far so good but there springs are weak even compaired to the stock XD spring. I noticed the AGP springs are rated 20% heavier than standard. Most of the time Wolff is 5 or 10% over factory. When I called wolff they said they have no plans to make a replacement mag spring for the 45acp, wonder why?

[kraigster414]

Wolff offers a +10 replacement mag spring for the Glocks including the Glock .45s - G21 and G30 (#75371). It is the same spring that fits the 19, 21, 23, 26, 27, etc. I have used it in the Glock 30 and it has comparable tension to the AGP in the XD45. Keep in mind when Wolff rates their springs +10, it is +10 over stock (Glock OEM) spring tension, the regular stock Glock mag springs are pretty tight to begin with compared to the stock XD stock springs. As for why Wolff has not elected to offer an extra power mag spring for the XD45, you could also ask why they have yet to introduce an after-market guide rod for the XD45 Ccompact and Service. I think the answer is, they have more business than they can handle and are traditionally slow to gear-up for new products. Just catering to the 1911 and Glock crowd is a f/t job and profitable.

I had a couple of M&P compacts and don't recall the OEM mag springs to be as weak as the XD45's.