2nd round didn't load?

[Kelavis]

2 or 3 times during my last range visit, after the first shot fired, the next didn't load. The round was still in the mag, but up enough to stop the slide from moving all the way forward. I just pulled back on the slide and the round loaded and fired, I then shot fine through the remainder of the magazine. Based on that it appears that the slide never went back far enough on those 3 occasions. I just figured that I wasn't using strong enough grip or limp wristing.

Is my assumption correct?

Also, can I test how well an ammo will feed by dry running a mag full through several times just to get a little idea? I know it wont simulate all aspects of actually firing a round but can it help at all?

[XD9Sub]

I assume you were using factory ammo. Did the FTF always happen with the same magazine, I suspect it did. It could be a weak spring or some dirt in the mag. Take the mag apart, clean the mag tube/spring and see how it performs on the next range trip. A few others have commented on weak mag springs, if that's the case you can buy replacement springs from one of the forum's sponsors.

Hand cycling rounds through the gun won't really tell you much, not the same pressures involved as in live fire.

[Elgis]

How long have you owned the weapon? How often do you clean? What do you clean with? How many rounds have been fired? A thorough cleaning may be your best solution, if that doesn't work try changing ammo. If that fails to solve the problem, call SA or consult a gunsmith. Good luck!

[Kelavis]

Originally Posted by Elgis

How long have you owned the weapon? How often do you clean? What do you clean with? How many rounds have been fired? A thorough cleaning may be your best solution, if that doesn't work try changing ammo. If that fails to solve the problem, call SA or consult a gunsmith. Good luck!

I have owned it less than one month and cleaned it after each trip to the range. I bought a kit from Wal-Mart and it came with some all-in-one solution. I have fired 275+ rounds to include WWB, Hydro-shok, Gold Dot, Homeland Defense 230 +p and Taurus Hex coppers. I believe the jam happened with the first 3 magazines which contained WWB for the first two and the homeland defense rounds for the last. I made a conscious effort to ensure my grip and wrist were tight so I just assumed that was the problem. I probably used the mags another 5 times minimum w/o problem and I didn't have the problem my first 2 visits.

[Tally XD]

If the gun is a new gun and you bought it new, then I wouldnt think it would be mag springs that soon. I would guess that you are likely still limp-wristing.

Do you have anyone else around, maybe a more experienced shooter than you, who could also fire the weapon and see if they get the same thing?

If you keep getting the same results, try what the others have posted and see what you get.

[rgeliske]

Yes it does sound like limp wristing. If the slide is not returning back all the way it is usually limp wristing or a too heavy return spring for the loads you are shooting. The factory return spring is a good all around weight and shoots factory loads without problems. Make sure all the rounds in the magazine are seated to the back of the mag. You do this by hit the back of the slide firmly against the heal of your hand or some other surface that will not damage the magazine. I'm not sure what you mean by dry firing with a full mag. and I don't think it is a good idea to dry fire with live rounds in the magazine.

[Kelavis]

Originally Posted by rgeliske

Yes it does sound like limp wristing. If the slide is not returning back all the way it is usually limp wristing or a too heavy return spring for the loads you are shooting. The factory return spring is a good all around weight and shoots factory loads without problems. Make sure all the rounds in the magazine are seated to the back of the mag. You do this by hit the back of the slide firmly against the heal of your hand or some other surface that will not damage the magazine. I'm not sure what you mean by dry firing with a full mag. and I don't think it is a good idea to dry fire with live rounds in the magazine.

Just cycling the rounds through, repeatedly pulling the slide back. I have a hard time describing things sometimes, still new to the terminology.

Thanks for the repsonses, I hope it is just my error, guess I'll see soon enough.

[ormandj]

It's *really* hard to limp wrist an XD45 into FTF without actively trying, unless you're shooting terrible ammo. I've purposely attempted to cause FTFs with intentional limp wristing, and still never managed to cause a FTF. I've never shot WWB, but from past reports, it sounds like fine ammo for the XD. I suppose it's possible you *really* limp wristed, and barely hold the pistol, and caused the FTFs - but you'd have to almost be barely holding the pistol. How stiff is your mag spring? Do you have to provide a fairly large amount of force to put in the last two cartridges into the magazine? I do (factory magazines, with about 1000 rds shot) - and I've not had a FTF yet. If it's easy, it might be a faulty magazine spring. Have you seen the issue with another magazine? Try to narrow down the potential faults, and see if you can isolate it.

[CountyDeputy]

I am going to go with the theory of a bad mag.. I had the same problem with my XD-40.. I had a range instructor then take my weapon and fire it, then cycle fire rapidly and a couple times it FTF on him. I marked the mag I was having the issues with.. come to find out it was the spring inside the mag, and the store I picked it up at replaced it for free.

We tried to limp wrist it, and a XD-45 to get the same effect, with almost no success. Dang XD for making such a user friendly firearm! LOL!

[TG13]

check the followers in the mags for hang ups..

in my mags, when i dropped the follower into the empty/disassembled mags, it would hang up about 2/3rds down the mag.. so i buffed the rough flash off the followers and sides, then dabbed on a little white lithium grease on the contact faces of the followers and have not had a single FTF since..

i think the followers are the reason for most of the feeding problems, which with wear, work themselves out.. but it's frustrating in the time that it takes the polymer follower to wear into the mag with repeated loading/unloadings..