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selectedmarksman · 03-27-2008, 05:14 PM

Suppressors used to be common, and common courtesy for hunters. President Teddy Roosevelt owned several. They make shooting more comfortable to the ear and dramatically reduce recoil. Well made suppressors even increase accuracy.

During the Clinton Ban years people had to switch to Muzzlebreaks instead of flash hiders. However, I've been to ranges that ban use of firearms with muzzlebreaks because of the noise it forces on other shooters. A suppressor will not only tame the recoil, it will make the range a more hearing safe environment for yourself and your fellow shooters.

My SWR HEMS suppressed .45acp HK USPc was about as loud fired dry as a Colibri powderless subsonic .22lr (mind you, a .22 driven by the primer alone, no gun powder). That's dry. Add some ablative (like the can is designed for) and it gets even better.

So there you have it:
1) They are for public safety and comfort, like hearing protection and car mufflers.
2) They tame recoil and can increase accuracy so they are valuable to the shooter.
3) Historically they did not have the stigma modern media and ignorant assholes place on them. Suppressors were the firearm accessories of gentlemen and Presidents.

**Loves2Shoot** · 03-27-2008, 05:19 PM

If you look at the photos of the British Royals, you will see some nice rifles with big fat cans on them.

Chapie+ · 03-27-2008, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selectedmarksman

1) They are for public safety and comfort, like hearing protection and car mufflers.
2) They tame recoil and can increase accuracy so they are valuable to the shooter.
3) Historically they did not have the stigma modern media and ignorant assholes place on them. Suppressors were the firearm accessories of gentlemen and Presidents.

So what does it take to get / have / possess one / use one today? What is the story on tax stamps and whatever else. How does it - legally getting one - work? Are they (silencers) really, really expensive?

Chapie+

flashdragoon · 03-27-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HPD`SRT

Exactly, you don't need a reason. The fact that you can buy almost anything with your hard earned money is just a reminder that your still free.

I wasn't questioning the right to buy one or legality or any of that crap, was just curious (as I stated) on the reasoning behind it, some good points were made and I concede several of them such as hearing damage prevention and accuracy, it's not for me but that doesn't mean I don't think someone shouldn't go buy one if they can.

Tachyon · 03-27-2008, 08:16 PM

Someone asked "how do I know if my state allows me to be quiet .."

ATFMachineguns.com

I'd also run across a "Gun Laws by state" on that darn wiki thing

Gun laws in the United States (by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

**HPD SRT** · 03-27-2008, 09:07 PM

Ok, so I am allowed to get one. But it's a gross misdemeanor if I use it. Great. I doubt any CLEO would sign off on getting one if it's illegal to use it. Sucks for me.

I could always try......but thats a lot of money I don't have right now

dogboy · 03-28-2008, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HPD`SRT

Ok, so I am allowed to get one. But it's a gross misdemeanor if I use it. Great. I doubt any CLEO would sign off on getting one if it's illegal to use it. Sucks for me.

I could always try......but thats a lot of money I don't have right now

Where did you find it is a gross misdemeanor if you use it? I didn't see anything on the two pages referenced that separated the two. Just whether you could own it or not.

I didn't realize they were allowed in the Peoples' Republik of Marilundt; I'm wondering if I want to get one and get a 4" XD45C set up for it, with a 5" threaded barrel. That would be the ultimate home defense.

Chapie+ · 03-28-2008, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogboy

Where did you find it is a gross misdemeanor if you use it? I didn't see anything on the two pages referenced that separated the two. Just whether you could own it or not.

I didn't realize they were allowed in the Peoples' Republik of Marilundt; I'm wondering if I want to get one and get a 4" XD45C set up for it, with a 5" threaded barrel. That would be the ultimate home defense.

So what permit / paperwork is required to get one legally? What does one give up to get one? How expensive are they? Is it worth it?

Chapie+

Dibby · 03-28-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chapie+

So what permit / paperwork is required to get one legally? What does one give up to get one? How expensive are they? Is it worth it?

Chapie+

At a local gunstore (Maryland) they had one in the case - the person behind the counter explained it costs $300.00 and requires some paperwork with the BATFE. He was more detailed but I didn't retain what he said. Google it!

Dib

Chapie+ · 03-28-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dibby

At a local gunstore (Maryland) they had one in the case - the person behind the counter explained it costs $300.00 and requires some paperwork with the BATFE. He was more detailed but I didn't retain what he said. Google it! Dib

Do any of our sponsors sell them?

Chapie+

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Loves2Shoot XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,409	If you look at the photos of the British Royals, you will see some nice rifles with big fat cans on them. __________________ www.SpringerPrecision.com

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Tachyon XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 36	Someone asked "how do I know if my state allows me to be quiet .." ATFMachineguns.com I'd also run across a "Gun Laws by state" on that darn wiki thing Gun laws in the United States (by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) __________________ What would Vic Mackey do ? Curious how the random discharge of a firearm can exact more justice than a 200 year old legal system.

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03-27-2008, 05:14 PM	#21
selectedmarksman XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 141	Suppressors used to be common, and common courtesy for hunters. President Teddy Roosevelt owned several. They make shooting more comfortable to the ear and dramatically reduce recoil. Well made suppressors even increase accuracy. During the Clinton Ban years people had to switch to Muzzlebreaks instead of flash hiders. However, I've been to ranges that ban use of firearms with muzzlebreaks because of the noise it forces on other shooters. A suppressor will not only tame the recoil, it will make the range a more hearing safe environment for yourself and your fellow shooters. My SWR HEMS suppressed .45acp HK USPc was about as loud fired dry as a Colibri powderless subsonic .22lr (mind you, a .22 driven by the primer alone, no gun powder). That's dry. Add some ablative (like the can is designed for) and it gets even better. So there you have it: 1) They are for public safety and comfort, like hearing protection and car mufflers. 2) They tame recoil and can increase accuracy so they are valuable to the shooter. 3) Historically they did not have the stigma modern media and ignorant assholes place on them. Suppressors were the firearm accessories of gentlemen and Presidents.