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Old 12-24-2007, 07:28 PM   #1
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Yee haa New Trigger job... By... ME!

I worked with renowned smith (now retired) John Mathews today for several Hours . I did the all the work 100% he did the coaching and I now can do a total XD 45 trigger job. Well almost 100%. We did not bother with one little step because it doesnt do much... according to John. So we polished the back side of the part in question...a part, John says works better anyway with the stock spring. At any rate. WOW, what a difference. And Since I have 2 45's a 4' COMPACT AND MY 5" TACH... I CAN EASILY COMPARE. THE DIFFERENCE IS amazing! AMAZING... with the spring and sear KIT from Pistolgear.com I can tell you, I did not think the feel would be so definable and clear. It is really cool when the pull is lowered. SO much more steady and a nice crisp snap. Well worth the effort. I will say, I am fortunate to have a Mentor, most are not so lucky. I don not think the Average Joe (Like Me) could do it... It could really get ugly... all these little suckers really need to be understood and clearly placed perfectly. Just getting the pins in and out correctly is an art. At any rate, I am doing my second Compact one after Christmas... on my own. I am grateful for John holding my hand and teaching me the ins and outs. Buzz.
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:51 PM   #2
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So did you used the drop in sear and trigger bar or did you modify the stock trigger bar and sear?
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Old 12-25-2007, 09:40 AM   #3
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What trigger kit did you go with? (Manufacturer)
Was thinking of getting mine done as well..
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:17 PM   #4
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Bought them both

Let me explain. I bought the Kits.... from Pistolgear. Springer Kit... and Canyon... however, not knowing what to expect, I also bought the Canyon Kit as well. I have the Canyon Kit,. will sell it or trade it to you. Basically they are very similar. the only thing I did not do what the new trigger bar. we played with the stock one. I probably will add the trigger bar, when they are back in stock... but my Smithy.. says it really does not do as much as you would think, and I should forget about it. The basic stuff, springs and trick sear are whats important to the trigger pull reduction. The trigger bar reduces travel and slack, stuff like that. At any rate let me know if you want this Canyon Pack of springs. I forget what it costs.. its less than the Springer one because it does not come with a sear... Ill gladly trade for anything just about? Let me know. Buzz.
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I probably will add the trigger bar, when they are back in stock... but my Smithy.. says it really does not do as much as you would think, and I should forget about it. The basic stuff, springs and trick sear are whats important to the trigger pull reduction. The trigger bar reduces travel and slack, stuff like that.
You won't see any change in trigger pull weight but you'll notice an overall difference once you get the trigger bar. Take it from someone that has shot the XD both with a trigger bar mod and without.
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:23 AM   #6
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sorry but your smith lied to you. the trigger bar mod is what mods pretravel and reset. i added metal to my trigger bar and it made a big difference. me and agalindo have both done out own trigger jobs and without the t.b. mod it wont work. if i swap my trigger bar for a stock one the gun will not fire.

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Old 12-29-2007, 12:03 PM   #7
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HTown,

Our parts go about things differently than you mod. Just using our sear reduces the pre-travel and reset by about half.

If you use our trigger bar it will reduce it even more when fitted properly and you will have an over travel adjustment also.
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my Smithy.. says it really does not do as much as you would think, and I should forget about it.
Loves2Shoot what we, me and Htown were trying to explain to buzzfuzz is that the trigger bar does make a difference.
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Loves2Shoot what we, me and Htown were trying to explain to buzzfuzz is that the trigger bar does make a difference.
OK, it is just the sear has more pre-travel takeup than the trigger bar, I just didn't want folks to misunderstand that.

That his gunsmith said trigger bar isn't important just means his gunsmith hasn't seen or used the part or understand what it does. I don't think anyone could say that it doesn't make a difference after using it.

I've had folks use the kits and be quite impressed with the performance of the kit alone. I've also had the same folks send their guns in for the full blown job when they try one that we have worked in the shop. That part of it is all relative.
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+1 i was just stating that the trigger bar does influence the whole trigger job idea. i completely understand that the parts you guys sell are nothing like what me and agalindo have done.
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