Well, no HST for me!

[Snoop]

Originally Posted by XD9Sub

+1 HST will not feed reliably for me (in several calibers), the mouth of the hollow point is TOO wide.

Did you have problems with 9mm? I was about to order a bunch of HST in 9mm.

[XD9Sub]

I think it depends more on the individual gun/mag springs and not the brand of gun. Lots of XDers use HST with no problem. I had problems with HST rounds in a CZ, an SA1911, a DW1911, and yes, even had problems in a G23.

Never had a problem with 9mm, but I did with .40 S&W and .45.

[bartonmd]

Originally Posted by XD9Sub

I think it depends more on the individual gun/mag springs and not the brand of gun. Lots of XDers us HST with no problem. I had problems with HST rounds in a CZ, an SA1911, a DW1911, and yes, even had problems in a G23.

Never had a problem with 9mm, but I did with .40 S&W and .45.

Correct, though there are types of pistols that just don't like hollow-points, but for the rest of them, it seems like some individual pistols are more tolerant of some types of ammo than other individual pistols. (meaning, different physical pistols of the same brand/model/caliber).

Mike

[bkelm18]

I've shot over 100 rds of HST through my 1911 and over 100 rds of HST through my HK USPc. Not a single hiccup. I carry it everyday.

[mp2day]

Originally Posted by Tard

The Federal Hydrashocks are flawless in all of my guns, that's what I have carried for 20 years (Sig, Beretta, XD).
I carry it for 6 months, then shoot it off and replace it.
Never a hitch.

I have had repeated problems with the 165gr Federal Hi-Shok rounds. Almost all the problems I have had have been with full or nearly full mag. As others have noted... the feed angle is pretty straight. Also the feed ramp is kind of short. I have thought about re-barreling it with a Barstow... if that might have a longer feed ramp.

I compared feed angle to the H&K USP 45... feed angle off the USP mag is very sharp. Of course... we get 1 more round.

My solution (for now) has been to pick my ammo carefully through testing (expensive). Since problems have been full mag... I run 8 rnds of target ammo and top off with the carry round I'm testing... then rap off 5 rounds fairly quickly. Repeat. I did this for 2 boxes (40 rnds) of hollow points of each flavor. I should probably do more testing, but costs limit me. No feed issues with the Gold Dots or Hornady rounds. Only the Federals gave me trouble. I haven't tested any others. I'm avoiding those that fellow XDers have noted to be troublesome.

So far I agree with some of the others here... Gold Dots are fine. Also have had no trouble with Hornady 200gr +P or 230gr +P. Right now I'm carrying the Hornady 200gr because I get them for a good price from my gun club, and they were shooting well. I gave away my remaining Federals to a friend with a Sig P220.

[RBOWWOW]

I'd like to go Gold Dot on all my carry's but there isnt a good local dealer...
when I'm thru bleeding money from Christmas I'll get on the mail order mode and buy a bunch.

[Bree]

HST has never jammed in my XD-45 Compact. Nevertheless, I do not put 100% reliance on any hollowpoint in a semi-automatic weapon. The idea of putting an HST into the pipe was once suggested by someone and I thought that was a reasonable idea since it eliminates any chance of an FTF.

But I prefer to load the first two shots I shoot... the two most important shots... with EFMJ. That may not be popular with some but I don't care. I am a believer in the round and it has exactly the features that I want. The HST does a couple of things a little better like penetrating auto glass and slightly greater expansion under certain circumstances. So I use it as well. But I have a New York .380 reload ready with DPX in the pipe at all times just in case.

I think Mike should investigate his problem further. Maybe the problem is in the mags? I haven't seen anyone else reporting this. If the problem were truly with the cartridges then wouldn't there be several reports of failure???

[bartonmd]

Originally Posted by Bree

HST has never jammed in my XD-45 Compact. Nevertheless, I do not put 100% reliance on any hollowpoint in a semi-automatic weapon. The idea of putting an HST into the pipe was once suggested by someone and I thought that was a reasonable idea since it eliminates any chance of an FTF.

But I prefer to load the first two shots I shoot... the two most important shots... with EFMJ. That may not be popular with some but I don't care. I am a believer in the round and it has exactly the features that I want. The HST does a couple of things a little better like penetrating auto glass and slightly greater expansion under certain circumstances. So I use it as well. But I have a New York .380 reload ready with DPX in the pipe at all times just in case.

I think Mike should investigate his problem further. Maybe the problem is in the mags? I haven't seen anyone else reporting this. If the problem were truly with the cartridges then wouldn't there be several reports of failure???

Bree,

I had thought of that, but I know at least XD9Sub said he had issues with them, too... I also didn't have any issues in 80 rds of the TAP stuff, or in close to 500 rds of ball ammo.

I did, however, find it strange that (2) of the rounds ended up getting hung up on the TOP of the chamber. I know at least one of those was the last round in a 13 rd. mag (yes, I had the X-Tension on it), but the other was in the middle, as was the one in the 10rd mag.

Mike

[Bree]

Don't know as I wasn't there but what you write affects a lot of people so check it out and make sure all stones have been turned over and checked to see what's underneath. Hollowpoints are finicky about prancing into gun chambers to be blasted. Darn things remind me of fish... they are sometimes kind of reluctant to impale themselves on perfectly good hooks!

[bartonmd]

Originally Posted by Bree

Don't know as I wasn't there but what you write affects a lot of people so check it out and make sure all stones have been turned over and checked to see what's underneath. Hollowpoints are finicky about prancing into gun chambers to be blasted. Darn things remind me of fish... they are sometimes kind of reluctant to impale themselves on perfectly good hooks!

I get that, and I didn't say that the ammo is junk, but rather that mine doesn't seem to want to feed it 100% reliably, when it seems to feed ball ammo 100%. Just like the only guy who was having trouble every mag with the TAP ammo, but ran everything else fine. I am having trouble with the HST, but TAP seems to run fine. If anything, regardless of whether it's a problem with my XD or mags, or whatever, it at least may stop somebody from saying "mine fires ball just fine, and nobody with an XD has had any problem running HST, so I'll carry with it assuming it's fine after firing 20rds."

About mags, and mag springs, I did notice that some of my mags, right out of the box, are slightly harder to load than others. I thought about it, but it does still seem to load ball ammo fine, so I don't know that it's a big deal or not. They all seem to have plenty of pressure, but aren't all the same... Also, it's not like all of them are the same and one is weaker... They are all slightly different, and I know none of them are as hard to load as the double stack .45 Glock mags, but neither were the XD's I rented before buying this one, so I don't know.

Mike