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Eh, my cousin has a conversion kit for his 1911, I don't see how thats really a training tool. As many of us have already said, if you want to get good with your caliber weapon, shoot that same caliber weapon, run some drills, and learn to become tactically correct. I suppose if they're able to somehow replicate its exact recoil, great, but otherwise I'll just stick to what I got.
I do plan to go buy a .22 plinker but its for a cheap day at the range, not for training. I'm pretty sure it will be a Sig Mosquito. But I'd rather spend $20 for a thousand rounds of ammo once in a while than close to $20 for one box of .45acp or .40S&W. Its a cost effective thing and some fun to be had by some of the women in my life than to actually learn anything on a larger bore handgun. I've never really see that transition work well. Last edited by 40packin : 10-01-2007 at 12:04 AM. |
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If all you are looking for is something to plink with then another gun might be a better choice for you. Like I said in the beginning, I like to become proficient with a daily carry and the conversion is a great training aid.
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Easy to convert
All you do for the conversion is change the slide (whole assembly) and clip and you are ready to go. But, I do not think the Ciener and Marvel Conversions have a "split breech" or "floating chamber" to emulate 45acp felt recoil. The slides on most of these are made of aluminum to accomplish ejection. Sight picture is same as original weapon so they are still valuable for training. Used ones for 1911 and Glock are showing up at gun shows if you have time to hunt Good Luck finding a deal on one.
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2145 and still nothing to add but insults
Most of the currently available conversion units use aluminum slides to enable recoil and ejection and do not use the "felt recoil" Carbine Williams design floating chamber. Price on these Newer units is around $250 new $150 + used. Older 1911 Floating Chamber 45 units are $400 to $800.
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Response from Advantage Arms
Advantage Arms currently manufactures a Glock and 1911 conversion Kit. An earlier post indicated they had an XD kit at the Shot Show with a production estimate of end of 2007. Below is their response to an email query sent yesterday.
Not going to make it until sometime in 08. Been to busy making the Glock and 1911 kits, just haven't had the time to work on the XD. Regards, Advantage Arms I just hope they aren't "stringing us along".
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Just got the same response. Was told that they haven't had time to work on it. If they haven't even started to work on it, it's probably a long ways off. I wouldn't expect it in '08 at this pace.
The only thing that might light a fire under their butts is if we all started contacting them asking for it. If they see a significant demand, they may make it a priority.
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MY NAME IS SUE!!! HOW DO YOU DO!!! "I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it." Last edited by dasanii19 : 10-01-2007 at 01:32 PM. |
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Advantage Arms Conversions
There is a good article on the pros and cons associated with light weight Aluminum slide conversion units. Google: "Advantage Arms Conversion" ..... the "Owens Life" article is a few sites down on the list.
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As much as I appreciate all of the bits that everyone has added to this thread, some technical and some opinion, all of it being good taken in the right frame of mind, enough is enough! Don't sit here and flame on one another until a Moderator decides to shut down the thread.
What's that quote, "Can't we all just get along?" Both of you had valid comments and I again thank you both. Let's not make this a place for the two of you to clown on one another, however much joy it may bring either of you.
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I was more or less making this comment to get others opinions as this has ran across my mind about the conversion. IMO for how cheap you can buy .22's for these days it would seem more practical to me to just buy a .22 rather then convert your XD into one. Again, I know nothing about conversions and I never claimed to. I'm just as curious about the conversion as anyone else here, so when I hear comments about how it is designed to copy the actual feel of firing of the larger caliber they are replacing" and how it works its all new to me but I do think what I posted about was on topic, I simply wanted to hear others input. Buzz, it has nothing to do with laziness as im the last to be lazy with any of my firearms, I clean them all spotless after ever trip. My comment had nothing to do with me being lazy.... I just think if there is going to be a topic on a .22 conversion kit for the XD it should be looked at from every single angle and I mean every singe angle, that way all newbies like myself have a pretty good idea of what we are getting ourselves into if we decide to try it out. So what if I brought up the cleaning issue, that is a fact whether you like it or not, and for you to harass my comment is uncalled for buzz.. Ill erase my insults to keep this thread going.. Please do the same buzz.
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