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Alaskapopo · 09-10-2007, 10:47 PM

I carry the 45 acp because that is the round the 1911 was designed around and tends to work the best with. I also like the fact that bullets in 45 acp open to large diameters and have good penetration. Do I think its the hammer of thor no. But I do think it has a small edge over the other service rounds in terminal performance.
Pat

blefferd · 09-10-2007, 11:01 PM

the .45 is like the chuck norris of pistol calibers

or is that the 10mm?? ive herd tell that you dont even have to hit them with the 10mm because its so powerful.!!!

GlockConvert · 09-10-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by XD45inAZ

+100000

One .45 placed anywhere on the human body will stop a bad guy in his tracks. Two will make it permanent.

Like I said, ballistic lala land. If you really think that one hit with a 45 anywhere in the body is going to stop a bad guy "in his tracks", you need to do some research on anatomy and ballistics. Start with Martin Fackler and go from there.

Alaskapopo · 09-10-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GlockConvert

Like I said, ballistic lala land. If you really think that one hit with a 45 anywhere in the body is going to stop a bad guy "in his tracks", you need to do some research on anatomy and ballistics. Start with Martin Fackler and go from there.

Excellent post. Some people believe in the tooth fair, the easter bunny and one shot stops. None of them exist. The 45 is a fine service round but it is not a death ray. In fact it has a long record of failures to stop just like all the service pistol rounds. Pistols generally suck at stopping determined aggressors. What stops fights is shot placement and CNS hits.
Pat

blefferd · 09-11-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GlockConvert

Like I said, ballistic lala land. If you really think that one hit with a 45 anywhere in the body is going to stop a bad guy "in his tracks", you need to do some research on anatomy and ballistics. Start with Martin Fackler and go from there.

LOL i as i was reading that i almost laughed out loud! i was thinking man 2 shots to the arm = DEAD! or missing arm! haha

i agree seriously no defensive pistol round has a track record like that NONE. 1st of all there isnt enough data out there as to what pistol is the best defensive round there are two many factors that come into play.
2nd i dont care what you are shooting shot placement is key. you could rock someone with a 00 buck twice and they could live if you shot them in the legs!

i will say best home defense round 00 buck. best CW round would be what you can shoot accurately and comfortably. like it was said 100 times before SHOT PLACEMENT is key

Mortonspoint · 09-11-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

What stops fights is shot placement and CNS hits.
Pat

This is so true and why one must constantly train. Shooting good under pressure is an erodable skill. Besides, ammo is cheap, shoot until the threat stops.

kannibul · 09-11-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1BN/75th

Could have been worse!

230 gr speer gold dot leaving a 6.5" barrel at 1800 FPS(verified on 3 different chronographs) making 1650 FTLBS of muzzle energy.
LAR Grizzly 45winchester Magnum, Starline brass, VV N110 powder. Tests in balistics gel show reliable expansion to .96/.97 Dia with 95% weight retension. Std size blocks of gel explode after 3" of penetration. This is one 45 you won't get up from a hit to a limb! Center Mass or Head shot, bought and paid for! Accuracy? I have taken whitetail at a measured 142 yards standing iron sight shot. At 100 yards from a bench 2.5" 5 shot groups are normal.
Next time I test a batch I will have someone video it.
DR

You sir, are NUTS.

I can't image that...

MGD 45 · 09-11-2007, 01:12 PM

I can just imagine his BG moving at the last second to dodge the shot, only to scream in pain from the terrible burning sensation he just got from the FREAKING large ball of fire!!!

kat1950 · 09-11-2007, 01:27 PM

To put them down on the first shot.

Coogan · 09-11-2007, 06:00 PM

First off, I'm not trying to start any argument. Here is my second-hand experience with the .45 ACP (230 grain Fed. HydraShok):

About 2.5 years ago I am heading into work and check my cell voice mail. The only message was from one of my guys calling out because he was in the hospital. His cousin shot him.

Long story short, he and said cousin were in the same room. Cousin was messing with his new Taurus .45. Cous is sitting about 5 feet away when he "accidently" pops a round off. The round goes through the lower part of my guys leg (about 4" or so above the ankle) exits and skips off the top of his opposing foot (legs were crossed at the ankles).

After walking himself downstairs for the EMT guys (narrow staircase and a somewhat large dude) he makes it to the ER via ambulance. A good amount of blood.
The doctors are amazed as he is able to perform all the "can yous" they ask of him. No muscle damage. No nerve damage. No bone damage. Round went clean through. He was about as lucky as you can get for being shot with a .45 ACP.

I'll see if I can get him to send me a pic of the .45 HS. Almost 100% reloadable. Even after lodging itself into a door frame.

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blefferd XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 1,639	the .45 is like the chuck norris of pistol calibers or is that the 10mm?? ive herd tell that you dont even have to hit them with the 10mm because its so powerful.!!! __________________ ____________________________ NEF 20 Guage Parder Model (single shot) S&W 642 .38

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MGD 45 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Perry Posts: 1,285	I can just imagine his BG moving at the last second to dodge the shot, only to scream in pain from the terrible burning sensation he just got from the FREAKING large ball of fire!!! __________________ " Don't sweat the small stuff...& it's all small stuff. "

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09-10-2007, 10:47 PM	#81
Alaskapopo XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 2,962	I carry the 45 acp because that is the round the 1911 was designed around and tends to work the best with. I also like the fact that bullets in 45 acp open to large diameters and have good penetration. Do I think its the hammer of thor no. But I do think it has a small edge over the other service rounds in terminal performance. Pat

09-11-2007, 01:27 PM	#89
kat1950 XDTalk Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: central florida Posts: 49	To put them down on the first shot.

09-11-2007, 06:00 PM	#90
Coogan XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 22	First off, I'm not trying to start any argument. Here is my second-hand experience with the .45 ACP (230 grain Fed. HydraShok): About 2.5 years ago I am heading into work and check my cell voice mail. The only message was from one of my guys calling out because he was in the hospital. His cousin shot him. Long story short, he and said cousin were in the same room. Cousin was messing with his new Taurus .45. Cous is sitting about 5 feet away when he "accidently" pops a round off. The round goes through the lower part of my guys leg (about 4" or so above the ankle) exits and skips off the top of his opposing foot (legs were crossed at the ankles). After walking himself downstairs for the EMT guys (narrow staircase and a somewhat large dude) he makes it to the ER via ambulance. A good amount of blood. The doctors are amazed as he is able to perform all the "can yous" they ask of him. No muscle damage. No nerve damage. No bone damage. Round went clean through. He was about as lucky as you can get for being shot with a .45 ACP. I'll see if I can get him to send me a pic of the .45 HS. Almost 100% reloadable. Even after lodging itself into a door frame.