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monona · 08-28-2007, 07:05 PM

Hello All,

New guy here. I just purchased a Serpa for my XD-45 and have a question about the holster.
Does it have a "plastic spring" that pushes against the bottom of the light rail/dust cover?
I have a Serpa for my P2000 and it has a "spring" that pushes against both the front of the trigger guard and the bottom of the light rail. The "spring" in the Serpa for the XD only pushes against the front of the trigger guard. The XD rattles around in the holster where as the P2000 doesn't.

Mike

**jnclement** · 08-28-2007, 07:06 PM

Can't help you, I got the non-Serpa Blackhawk.

kansas45 · 08-28-2007, 11:00 PM

Take a close look at your new holster. On the lower side, just ahead of the release lever is a phillips head machine screw. Put your unloaded pistol in the holster & adjust that screw untill you get the fit & feel that suits you. Turn it in, turn it out, pull & holster the firearm untill you like how the holster works. I Like mine very much.

monona · 08-29-2007, 07:16 AM

I've already adjusted the passive tension. The pistol is still loose in the holster.
The passive retention is different from the spring I'm asking about.
With my P2000 holster I can back off the passive tension completely and the pistol
still fits snugly because of the spring pushing against the light rail/dust cover.

Bill in San Jose · 08-30-2007, 04:33 PM

I have a Blackhawk Serpa for my 45 compact, and after adjusting the allen screw for 'tightness', it does not rattle around at all.

monona · 08-30-2007, 09:51 PM

I asked my question on another forum and a member there has the same issue as I do. I guess that's the way it's suppose to be.

aphexafx · 08-30-2007, 10:51 PM

My SERPA ("carbon fiber") for my 1911 fits like a glove with no rattle. It seems solid, and the gun snaps into the retention key with a solid sounding "click".

My SERPA ("carbon fiber") for my M9 does what yours is doing. The gun goes into the retention key with an un-solid sounding "clunk" and it rattles within the holster. I can tighten the passive retention screw to limit the rattle, but at that point it becomes very hard to pull the gun.

I also understand what you're saying about the retainer springs designed to hold the gun firmly, and you are correct that they have nothing to do with the passive retention (screw) or the active retention (trigger-guard lock).

I understand your concern completely, but I don't know what to tell you. You might see what Blackhawk says about it, and if you do let us know...I'm interested.

Frisco Pete · 08-31-2007, 10:39 AM

I have asked this question before about Blackhawk tactical rigs www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48065 - Blackhawk does not list the XD series at all for the SERPA holster, so which model fits the XD45 4" Service or Compact? Glock 22? or what? What SERPA did you order?

dave_in_delaware · 08-31-2007, 11:13 AM

I just purchased a Blackhawk CQC SERPA holster for my XD-9's, and they, too, rattle around a little. I have not adjusted the screw as of yet, so once I do, that may correct the "looser" fit inside the holster. The retention system keeps a great grip on the gun, too. It's just a little loose in the holster. My holster says "Springfield XD" on it so I know it's for the XD. I had asked the gun store guy where I bought it. He was sure it would fit the 9mm, 40, and 357.. but he wasn't 100% about the XD-45. I would think Blackhawk would know for sure....

Edited to add: I just emailed Blackhawk w/ these questions and concerns. I'll let you know what they say.

Bill in San Jose · 08-31-2007, 04:29 PM

http://www.thegunsource.com/store/Items.aspx?QID=3834

I ordered item # BHWK410507BKR $30.54

08-28-2007, 07:05 PM	#1
monona XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6	Blackhawk Serpa Question Hello All, New guy here. I just purchased a Serpa for my XD-45 and have a question about the holster. Does it have a "plastic spring" that pushes against the bottom of the light rail/dust cover? I have a Serpa for my P2000 and it has a "spring" that pushes against both the front of the trigger guard and the bottom of the light rail. The "spring" in the Serpa for the XD only pushes against the front of the trigger guard. The XD rattles around in the holster where as the P2000 doesn't. Mike

08-28-2007, 07:06 PM	#2
jnclement XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 2,396	Can't help you, I got the non-Serpa Blackhawk. __________________ Contrary to what sells magazines, not all of us are, or want to be SpecOps, SEAL, Recon, Delta, CQB, Ninja, firearm-knife-tactical-death-touch instructors.

08-28-2007, 11:00 PM	#3
kansas45 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: southern kansas near I35 Posts: 245	Take a close look at your new holster. On the lower side, just ahead of the release lever is a phillips head machine screw. Put your unloaded pistol in the holster & adjust that screw untill you get the fit & feel that suits you. Turn it in, turn it out, pull & holster the firearm untill you like how the holster works. I Like mine very much. __________________ I HAVE TWO GUNS. ONE FOR EACH OF YOU!

08-30-2007, 10:51 PM	#7
aphexafx XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 671	My SERPA ("carbon fiber") for my 1911 fits like a glove with no rattle. It seems solid, and the gun snaps into the retention key with a solid sounding "click". My SERPA ("carbon fiber") for my M9 does what yours is doing. The gun goes into the retention key with an un-solid sounding "clunk" and it rattles within the holster. I can tighten the passive retention screw to limit the rattle, but at that point it becomes very hard to pull the gun. I also understand what you're saying about the retainer springs designed to hold the gun firmly, and you are correct that they have nothing to do with the passive retention (screw) or the active retention (trigger-guard lock). I understand your concern completely, but I don't know what to tell you. You might see what Blackhawk says about it, and if you do let us know...I'm interested. __________________ Bleh.

08-31-2007, 11:13 AM	#9
dave_in_delaware XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 5,983	I just purchased a Blackhawk CQC SERPA holster for my XD-9's, and they, too, rattle around a little. I have not adjusted the screw as of yet, so once I do, that may correct the "looser" fit inside the holster. The retention system keeps a great grip on the gun, too. It's just a little loose in the holster. My holster says "Springfield XD" on it so I know it's for the XD. I had asked the gun store guy where I bought it. He was sure it would fit the 9mm, 40, and 357.. but he wasn't 100% about the XD-45. I would think Blackhawk would know for sure.... Edited to add: I just emailed Blackhawk w/ these questions and concerns. I'll let you know what they say. __________________ Dave Daily carry = XD-9 service in a Blackhawk CQC SERPA holster, a Spyderco Native, and a Streamlight Scorpion. "Everything matters... unless it's antimatter." “A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use.” [Delaware Constitution, Article I, § 20 Right to keep and bear arms] Last edited by dave_in_delaware : 08-31-2007 at 11:22 AM.

08-29-2007, 07:16 AM	#4
monona XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6	I've already adjusted the passive tension. The pistol is still loose in the holster. The passive retention is different from the spring I'm asking about. With my P2000 holster I can back off the passive tension completely and the pistol still fits snugly because of the spring pushing against the light rail/dust cover.

08-30-2007, 04:33 PM	#5
Bill in San Jose XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,276	I have a Blackhawk Serpa for my 45 compact, and after adjusting the allen screw for 'tightness', it does not rattle around at all.

08-30-2007, 09:51 PM	#6
monona XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6	I asked my question on another forum and a member there has the same issue as I do. I guess that's the way it's suppose to be.

08-31-2007, 10:39 AM	#8
Frisco Pete XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 132	I have asked this question before about Blackhawk tactical rigs www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48065 - Blackhawk does not list the XD series at all for the SERPA holster, so which model fits the XD45 4" Service or Compact? Glock 22? or what? What SERPA did you order?

08-31-2007, 04:29 PM	#10
Bill in San Jose XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,276	http://www.thegunsource.com/store/Items.aspx?QID=3834 I ordered item # BHWK410507BKR $30.54

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