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primeduck · 08-12-2007, 03:55 PM

When I shoot my XD45, I have a nice grouping...but it's to the left of the bulls. I thought I may need to adjust the front sight, but when my bud shot it...it hit dead on.

So yesterday I was in front of the mirror practicing my grip & stance and when I'd squeeze the trigger, I noticed I would pull the gun to the left (I'm right handed). I gripped the gun tighter & the left pull lessened somewhat...but still wanted to go in that direction. My grip is is the one with both thumbs together on the side on the gun, pointing towards the intended target and I use just the tip of my finger on the trigger.

Do I need to alter my grip somewhat............or will it correct itself with more practice and rounds down range?

ElJimmyStrappo · 08-12-2007, 04:03 PM

Here is my advice: grip the gun the strongest with your right hand, wrap you left hand around the right hand, it doesn't need to be terribly tight. Remove your thumbs from off the gun. It is typically called "flying thumbs", you just have them in the air. Make sure that on your right hand the tang is inline with the rest of your arm. You should be able to shoot right on target.

primeduck · 08-12-2007, 04:06 PM

Hmmm, just found this a couple of threads down.

An excellent training aid for those new to handgun shooting.

Thanks Jimmy, I'll try that also.

primeduck · 08-12-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ElJimmyStrappo

Here is my advice: grip the gun the strongest with your right hand, wrap you left hand around the right hand, it doesn't need to be terribly tight. Remove your thumbs from off the gun. It is typically called "flying thumbs", you just have them in the air. Make sure that on your right hand the tang is inline with the rest of your arm. You should be able to shoot right on target.

Well I'll be danged. Just got back from the mirror, took my thumbs off of the side of the gun & laid them together on top of my hand...but still against it somewhat. Used the middle of the pad of my finger.........and NO pulling to the left. Front sight stayed put.

Now, time for some live fire & practice, practice, practice.

The Knight Of Light · 08-12-2007, 04:31 PM

Mirror practice is OK but Recording your dry fire practice is much better.

Also go here.

http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_t...ombatg_100306/

XD45inAZ · 08-12-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Knight Of Light

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http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_t...ombatg_100306/

I'm going to try that grip next time I am at the range.

*EDIT* I tried it with snap caps in the living room and it definitely feels more stable and my sights do line up faster when I draw into that position.

**Badshot** · 08-13-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Knight Of Light

Mirror practice is OK but Recording your dry fire practice is much better.

Also go here.

http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_t...ombatg_100306/

That is the best article I've ever read on that grip style. I stumbled on that style on night just dry firing at the bad guys on TV.. I had issues prior to that with a slight leftward pull. Initially I was thumbs on and have since shifted to the Enos style of thumbs off. Didn't know that those two invented the grip

But I will say that it's improved my pistol shooting a thousand fold. Oddly, because I have longer thumbs and some weird ranges of motion with my thumb joints (hitch hikers thumb some call it) the positioning is far more comfortable for me than others. Getting new shooters to adopt it takes a good bit of nagging for the first few sessions, but they realize that doing that rather than the 70's era underhand support works a lot better. This is especially true when I dump 2 mags into the kill zone really fast and they see how much faster the target acquisition happens vs. their TV concept

The Knight Of Light · 08-13-2007, 02:03 PM

There is a reason that Rob Leatham is the greatest action pistol shooter of all time.

XD45inAZ · 08-14-2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Knight Of Light

There is a reason that Rob Leatham is the greatest action pistol shooter of all time.

Holy sh*t, what an improvement!!! I'm doing that grip from now on. I am so excited that I picked up on that grip style so fast, I did do some snap cap practice at home the day before with that grip so I am sure that helped

The Knight Of Light · 08-14-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XD45inAZ

Holy sh*t, what an improvement!!! I'm doing that grip from now on. I am so excited that I picked up on that grip style so fast, I did do some snap cap practice at home the day before with that grip so I am sure that helped

It is a very easy grip style to learn and your shooting will improve very quickly.

08-12-2007, 03:55 PM	#1
primeduck XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ellis County, Tx Posts: 266	Need Advice... Maybe on Grip or Something Else When I shoot my XD45, I have a nice grouping...but it's to the left of the bulls. I thought I may need to adjust the front sight, but when my bud shot it...it hit dead on. So yesterday I was in front of the mirror practicing my grip & stance and when I'd squeeze the trigger, I noticed I would pull the gun to the left (I'm right handed). I gripped the gun tighter & the left pull lessened somewhat...but still wanted to go in that direction. My grip is is the one with both thumbs together on the side on the gun, pointing towards the intended target and I use just the tip of my finger on the trigger. Do I need to alter my grip somewhat............or will it correct itself with more practice and rounds down range? __________________ XD 45ACP Compact Dark Earth P22 Target Military 3.4" OD Green Taurus PT111 Millenium Pro 9mm Tan

08-12-2007, 04:03 PM	#2
ElJimmyStrappo XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SE Idaho Posts: 1,316	Here is my advice: grip the gun the strongest with your right hand, wrap you left hand around the right hand, it doesn't need to be terribly tight. Remove your thumbs from off the gun. It is typically called "flying thumbs", you just have them in the air. Make sure that on your right hand the tang is inline with the rest of your arm. You should be able to shoot right on target. __________________ The Carry: Springfield XD 9 Service - Crossbreed Supertuck & DGR with #16 and #22 springs. The Tack Driver: Sako Vixen L461 .222 Rifle with Bushnell 4X Scope A real tack driver! The Fun Gun: Marlin .22 LR with Bushnell 7X Scope The best weapon anyone can have: a brain. "The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental." -John Steinbeck "Beware the man who owns just one gun, he will know how to use it."

08-12-2007, 04:06 PM	#3
primeduck XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ellis County, Tx Posts: 266	Hmmm, just found this a couple of threads down. An excellent training aid for those new to handgun shooting. Thanks Jimmy, I'll try that also. __________________ XD 45ACP Compact Dark Earth P22 Target Military 3.4" OD Green Taurus PT111 Millenium Pro 9mm Tan

08-12-2007, 04:31 PM	#5
The Knight Of Light XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 8,708 Blog Entries: 12	Mirror practice is OK but Recording your dry fire practice is much better. Also go here. http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_t...ombatg_100306/ __________________ No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. USPSA #L3077 What a great number!!! http://theknightoflight.blogspot.com/ Creator of TOP 'O' THE PAGE!!! Moose Fight

08-13-2007, 02:03 PM	#8
The Knight Of Light XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 8,708 Blog Entries: 12	There is a reason that Rob Leatham is the greatest action pistol shooter of all time. __________________ No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. USPSA #L3077 What a great number!!! http://theknightoflight.blogspot.com/ Creator of TOP 'O' THE PAGE!!! Moose Fight

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