Bar-sto match grade barrel...

[slugger6]

Originally Posted by Mercmar

Wasn't intended to be a serious analogy, for Pete's sake! I have not fired your XD with your "expertyly installed" Bar-Sto barrel. However, I have fired tens of thousands of rounds through match barrels over the years. It is my opinion, and nothing more, that nobody likely to have time to play in this forum would truly benefit from having a Bar-Sto or any other aftermarket barrel installed in his/her XD, other than perhaps benefiting from the placebo effect.

Not likely that you're going to agree, your having dropped serious coin on a superfluous barrel!

So now in your attack on me you are going to question the expertise of Scott Springer, a forum sponsor, and the shooting skills of my friends who post in this forum?! Unbelievable! Given your superior talent why do you bother to associate with us mere mortals?

[enfurno]

OHHH Man slugger. I can't believe you put a barrel in your gun. MY GOD what could you ppooooosssibly have wanted that for? I mean, accuracy schmackuracy, the guy next to you can shoot 8 inch groups just fine with a stock beretta.... Didn't you know that beretta's and xd's were actually the same gun?? Anyway back to what I was saying, how absurd that you spend your own money to increase the accuracy of your XD92FS! I DAMN THE!



note: Some people think that they know it all, and rather than allowing others to live their lives they choose to impose themselves ever chance that they get.

HERE HERE!! HERE's to the Know-It-Alls!

[willbird]

If you can hit a soda can every time at 50 yards with a handgun then you know a match bbl is an asset, if you cannot your right it would be a waste of money on YOUR gun I did see some little itty bitty 1.25" at 25 yard groups Taffin shot with a stock XD-45

[AKpredator]

Bar-Sto barrels are the industry standard. You might talk to forum member Bob Hostetter. He used to work for Bar-Sto.

[willbird]

"Industry Standard" ??? Hmm I would more give that honor to Mr. Clark , at least for years in the industry with a product which has no superiors.


Bill

[perkelp]

Originally Posted by Mercmar

Wasn't intended to be a serious analogy, for Pete's sake! I have not fired your XD with your "expertly installed" Bar-Sto barrel. However, I have fired tens of thousands of rounds through match barrels over the years. It is my opinion, and nothing more, that nobody likely to have time to play in this forum would truly benefit from having a Bar-Sto or any other aftermarket barrel installed in his/her XD, other than perhaps benefiting from the placebo effect. Now, if, coincidentally, you had one of Springer's excellent trigger jobs done while he was expertly fitting that Bar-Sto barrel, then I'd bet even ol' Sherlock himself could figure out where the increased accuracy came from.

Not likely that you're going to agree, your having dropped serious coin on a superfluous barrel!

Mr Mercmar, I am the one who spent serious coin on a 'superfluous' barrel. The standard barrel is fine, but I wanted a little more accuracy. In my opinion, anything that helps me put the steel exactly where I need it to be on the target is a good thing. I have the Springer trigger/action job for the same reason. (Incidently, the trigger job Scott does is incredible!)

Apparently many others agree. Look at all the aftermarket barrels that are available for not only XDs but any weapon out there. If there was no market, there would be no aftermarket barrels. Frankly, I'm confused at your opinion because you state 'you have tens of thousands of rounds through match grade barrels' and yet you deride those who would install a match grade in their pistols.

The fact that you feel a match grade is superfluous is your business. I was sharing my experience with this situation with the hope of helping others. But there is no reason for your patronizing tone toward others who care to have a match grade installed.

IT'S MY MONEY. I EARN IT. NOT YOU. If I want to spend it on an upgraded barrel that's my business. If I want to spend my money on professional grade tiddlywinks, that's my business. If others want to spend their hard earned money on a match grade, that's their business. If you do not want to spend your money on a barrel, then don't. That's your right. And you also have the right to express your opinions regarding the issue. That's what this forum is for.

Stating opinions is one thing, and your opinion re match grade barrels is quite clear. But there is a huge difference between stating your opinion and deriding the opinions of others. I agree with the other posters that your commentary was over the top and out of line. Even if in your opinion we only benefit from the placebo effect, surely you can find the way to eloquently give your opinion without patronizing people.

Paul

[BMFOTP]

Great post Paul

[Mercmar]

Originally Posted by slugger6

So now in your attack on me you are going to question the expertise of Scott Springer, a forum sponsor, and the shooting skills of my friends who post in this forum?! Unbelievable! Given your superior talent why do you bother to associate with us mere mortals?

I really didn't mean to rile you up. What I said, I stand by. For most of us who shoot combat-type handguns, a bullseye-quality match barrel is just simply superfluous.

I didn't attack either you or Springer; would remind you that I referred to his "excellent trigger job."

There is probably hope for your paranoia, through psychotherapy and perhaps various prescription drugs; doubt if any of that will prove to be beneficial to your lack of ability to read and comprehend the English language.

[slugger6]

Originally Posted by Mercmar

I really didn't mean to rile you up. What I said, I stand by. For most of us who shoot combat-type handguns, a bullseye-quality match barrel is just simply superfluous.

I didn't attack either you or Springer; would remind you that I referred to his "excellent trigger job."

There is probably hope for your paranoia, through psychotherapy and perhaps various prescription drugs; doubt if any of that will prove to be beneficial to your lack of ability to read and comprehend the English language.

You're a real piece of work, Mercmar. Now you taken this discourse down to the level of personal insults? You say "I didn't mean to rile you up" and "I didn't attack either you or Springer...", but it sure doesn't look like that from where I'm sitting.

[Son of Erin, Infidel]

Originally Posted by Mercmar

Wasn't intended to be a serious analogy, for Pete's sake! I have not fired your XD with your "expertly installed" Bar-Sto barrel. However, I have fired tens of thousands of rounds through match barrels over the years. It is my opinion, and nothing more, that nobody likely to have time to play in this forum would truly benefit from having a Bar-Sto or any other aftermarket barrel installed in his/her XD, other than perhaps benefiting from the placebo effect. Now, if, coincidentally, you had one of Springer's excellent trigger jobs done while he was expertly fitting that Bar-Sto barrel, then I'd bet even ol' Sherlock himself could figure out where the increased accuracy came from.

Not likely that you're going to agree, your having dropped serious coin on a superfluous barrel!

So tell me, Master, why DO they make match barrels??.......isn't it for tighter tolerances and to enhance accuracy?........Slugger6 is talking about pistol matches, not service or home defense accuracy which is a wholly different thing.........and why did you feel the need to get personal about it........do you have money invested in stock XD barrels? or do you just not shoot well enough to tell the difference?........rhetorical question, don't bother answering 'cause i'm not really interested