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Amistad · 07-23-2007, 02:23 AM

As I've narrowed down my list of potential purchases for a semi-automatic 45, I really like the Ruger P345. I especially like the decocker that it has. But other features have drawn me to the XD. As I am about to purchase my final choice of an XD45, I'd like to see if I'm understanding correctly.

If I have an XD45 with loaded magazine inserted, a round in the chamber and cocked ready to fire, how would I "change my mind" at that point? My thinking is that I'd need to remove the magazine, then rack the slide to eject the round in the chamber. Is this correct, or is there something else that it would behoove me to know in this regard? Thanks!

Amistad
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Glxso201 · 07-23-2007, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Amistad

My thinking is that I'd need to remove the magazine, then rack the slide to eject the round in the chamber.

That's right...the only decock the XD has is the trigger

MasLakas · 07-23-2007, 06:40 AM

The XD has a lot of trigger take up and feels like a double action only semi auto but is a single action. I looked at the Ruger and did not like the decocker because of the two different trigger pulls on the first and second shot. I like how the XD has the same trigger pull every shot and it is always ready to shoot.

Just remember the keep you finger off of the trigger until you are ready to shoot. Gook Luck on your choice.

Amistad · 07-23-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MasLakas

I like how the XD has the same trigger pull every shot and it is always ready to shoot.

I was not aware of that and I really appreciate you mentioing this little bit of knowledge. I'm still undecided as to black or olive drab in the 4" compact edition.

Amistad
'hates being so indecisive!'

fredj338 · 07-24-2007, 08:13 AM

There is nothing wrong w/ a SA/DA w/ decocker. It just takes getting used to. The one upside to no striker fired pistol is if you do have a round not fire, you can often just pull the trigger again. Safetys & decockers are just another thing you have to think about when shooting. It's one reason striker fired pistols like the Glock & XD are so popular.

nitrox28 · 07-24-2007, 08:22 PM

Wow. What a question.

Johnnybgood · 07-24-2007, 08:46 PM

It all boils down to ,It's what you like best. I own a XD 45 compact and a Rguer P345PR and love them both. How ever if I had to choose only one it would clearly be hands down the XD over the Ruger. The XD just feels natural in the hand and that is why I also own a XD 40 SC so the Ruger doesn't get near the attention my XD's do. That doesn't mean the Ruger is a bad firearm, in fact it is a very good firearm but in my opinion the XD is an excellent firearm and I like them best.

Captain Jack · 07-25-2007, 12:53 AM

I saw you post the same question in the Ruger board. In all honesty, considering all the factors you gave, I'd go with the Ruger P345. I have one, and I personally would not trade it for anything. It's built Ruger tough, and has a better grip size for your wife, and it fits your hand too. Compared to th XD-45, it only has 8+1 round capacity and the XD-45 has 13+1 IIRC (10+1 in Kommiefornia). If you need more than 8 rounds, you need something more than a .45acp. Then again, there's always that spare clip.

Don't get me wrong, XD's are great guns!!!! No doubt about it. It's more like comparing a Civic with a Corolla. Both are fine cars, but some prefer the Civic, others the Corolla.

Don't simply rely on the safety or decocker. Practice safety as much as possible. Your wife too. Get to know the gun, and have the safety procedures memorized, and always practice them to keep yourselves fresh in how to handle a gun.

I like the loaded chamber indicator on the RUger more than on the XD simply because it is on top and BIGGER than the XD's top little thing. Also, even though some don't like this feature, it can work to your benifit; when you drop the magazine on the Ruger, the gun will not fire even if there is a round in the chamber. It's good for clearing the gun in my opinion. Especially for those who are new to guns. This feature can be removed if you clean the rear sights (see the Ruger Board on that one), but I'd leave it alone. I've had NO problems with mine.

Cleaning is easy, just remember to keep the main spring in the correct direction when re-assembling it. Also, it may be simpler to have a hammer fired gun since you can actually SEE the hammer is back, or is decocked. The XD's have a little pin that sticks out, but it may not be as, I don't know, 'convincing' (not the best word to describe it) as a larger hammer would be.

If you get the Ruger, use Winchester White Box, Federal, or Magtech FMJ's or JHP's. They work great on it. The P345 does NOT like Remington loads. It will take any grain from 185 to 230 just fine. Eats 'em like candy.

You can always get an XD-45 later on for yourself. But I wouldn't give up that Ruger. I almost did, and now I am glad I didn't.

Captain Jack · 07-25-2007, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amistad

I was not aware of that and I really appreciate you mentioing this little bit of knowledge. I'm still undecided as to black or olive drab in the 4" compact edition.

Amistad
'hates being so indecisive!'

Also, the XD's, and other striker fired pistols have a "squishy" trigger. Regular hammer pistols don't. The first pull of a Ruger P345 is longer than the next ones, but it isn't bad. They have a pretty crisp break to them (I think that's how people say it?) which is good.

Try them both if you can.

Amistad · 07-25-2007, 03:07 AM

I'm grateful for each and every reply that has been posted to my query. This is really a wonderful place to get information!

Captain Jack, I had already decided to go with Ruger before I read your posts. Seeing and pondering on what you've said, has affirmed that for me (and my wife), Ruger is the best decision. I hadn't really thought of how much it means to be to be able to see (and thumb back, if desired) the hammer. By golly, you struck the proverbial pointed object right on its epicenter with your mentioning of that important item...

I have no immediate plans of getting a second .45 semi-automatic, but if that time ever comes, it will likely be an XD. But at this point in my life, I'm certain that I'll be happier going with the P345.

Thanks again for taking time to offer your helpful insights!

Amistad
'happy to have at last decided!'

07-23-2007, 02:23 AM	#1
Amistad XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The land of the Alamo! Posts: 30	Clearing an XD45 As I've narrowed down my list of potential purchases for a semi-automatic 45, I really like the Ruger P345. I especially like the decocker that it has. But other features have drawn me to the XD. As I am about to purchase my final choice of an XD45, I'd like to see if I'm understanding correctly. If I have an XD45 with loaded magazine inserted, a round in the chamber and cocked ready to fire, how would I "change my mind" at that point? My thinking is that I'd need to remove the magazine, then rack the slide to eject the round in the chamber. Is this correct, or is there something else that it would behoove me to know in this regard? Thanks! Amistad 'ya gotta love this stuff!'

07-23-2007, 06:40 AM	#3
MasLakas XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cache Valley, Utah Posts: 2,623	The XD has a lot of trigger take up and feels like a double action only semi auto but is a single action. I looked at the Ruger and did not like the decocker because of the two different trigger pulls on the first and second shot. I like how the XD has the same trigger pull every shot and it is always ready to shoot. Just remember the keep you finger off of the trigger until you are ready to shoot. Gook Luck on your choice. __________________ I speak softly and carry a .45. UtahConcealedCarry.Org Last edited by MasLakas : 07-23-2007 at 11:54 AM. Reason: spelling

07-24-2007, 08:46 PM	#7
Johnnybgood XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North West Florida Posts: 589	Only you can deciede It all boils down to ,It's what you like best. I own a XD 45 compact and a Rguer P345PR and love them both. How ever if I had to choose only one it would clearly be hands down the XD over the Ruger. The XD just feels natural in the hand and that is why I also own a XD 40 SC so the Ruger doesn't get near the attention my XD's do. That doesn't mean the Ruger is a bad firearm, in fact it is a very good firearm but in my opinion the XD is an excellent firearm and I like them best. __________________ XD .40 SC TFO's XD .45 Compact XD . 40 Service Ruger P345PR Taurus 605 357 MAG Bersa Thunder .380 Savage 12 gage pump

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07-24-2007, 08:13 AM	#5
fredj338 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,190	There is nothing wrong w/ a SA/DA w/ decocker. It just takes getting used to. The one upside to no striker fired pistol is if you do have a round not fire, you can often just pull the trigger again. Safetys & decockers are just another thing you have to think about when shooting. It's one reason striker fired pistols like the Glock & XD are so popular.

07-24-2007, 08:22 PM	#6
nitrox28 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lexington KY Posts: 13	Wow. What a question.

07-25-2007, 12:53 AM	#8
Captain Jack XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 988	I saw you post the same question in the Ruger board. In all honesty, considering all the factors you gave, I'd go with the Ruger P345. I have one, and I personally would not trade it for anything. It's built Ruger tough, and has a better grip size for your wife, and it fits your hand too. Compared to th XD-45, it only has 8+1 round capacity and the XD-45 has 13+1 IIRC (10+1 in Kommiefornia). If you need more than 8 rounds, you need something more than a .45acp. Then again, there's always that spare clip. Don't get me wrong, XD's are great guns!!!! No doubt about it. It's more like comparing a Civic with a Corolla. Both are fine cars, but some prefer the Civic, others the Corolla. Don't simply rely on the safety or decocker. Practice safety as much as possible. Your wife too. Get to know the gun, and have the safety procedures memorized, and always practice them to keep yourselves fresh in how to handle a gun. I like the loaded chamber indicator on the RUger more than on the XD simply because it is on top and BIGGER than the XD's top little thing. Also, even though some don't like this feature, it can work to your benifit; when you drop the magazine on the Ruger, the gun will not fire even if there is a round in the chamber. It's good for clearing the gun in my opinion. Especially for those who are new to guns. This feature can be removed if you clean the rear sights (see the Ruger Board on that one), but I'd leave it alone. I've had NO problems with mine. Cleaning is easy, just remember to keep the main spring in the correct direction when re-assembling it. Also, it may be simpler to have a hammer fired gun since you can actually SEE the hammer is back, or is decocked. The XD's have a little pin that sticks out, but it may not be as, I don't know, 'convincing' (not the best word to describe it) as a larger hammer would be. If you get the Ruger, use Winchester White Box, Federal, or Magtech FMJ's or JHP's. They work great on it. The P345 does NOT like Remington loads. It will take any grain from 185 to 230 just fine. Eats 'em like candy. You can always get an XD-45 later on for yourself. But I wouldn't give up that Ruger. I almost did, and now I am glad I didn't.

07-25-2007, 03:07 AM	#10
Amistad XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The land of the Alamo! Posts: 30	I'm grateful for each and every reply that has been posted to my query. This is really a wonderful place to get information! Captain Jack, I had already decided to go with Ruger before I read your posts. Seeing and pondering on what you've said, has affirmed that for me (and my wife), Ruger is the best decision. I hadn't really thought of how much it means to be to be able to see (and thumb back, if desired) the hammer. By golly, you struck the proverbial pointed object right on its epicenter with your mentioning of that important item... I have no immediate plans of getting a second .45 semi-automatic, but if that time ever comes, it will likely be an XD. But at this point in my life, I'm certain that I'll be happier going with the P345. Thanks again for taking time to offer your helpful insights! Amistad 'happy to have at last decided!'