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fleshatomb@yahoo.com · 06-17-2007, 03:26 PM

Im looking for a good 45acp +p Full Metal Jacket ammo for defense against black bears if the day would ever come.

yes, i know, 44mag is the least you would want, but until I can afford a 44mag or .500 mag my 45 is the only hand gun I have. I live in WV and we just have black bears here, i dont think they get too big. Im not worried about hunting/hiking and running into a bear. its running into a momma bear and her cubs. Especially in the area i like to trout fish.

So, what load would you recommend for my XD 45 service? Only thing I have found is buffalo bore 45acp +P ammo (230 gr. FMJFN @ 950 fps (461 ft. lbs.) I see they also have this '45 super' but after searching here it doesnt seem to be very practicle and you need a conversion and all this other stuff.

any info is appreciated.

spamlovr · 06-17-2007, 05:15 PM

I advise you find other ways to avoid bears or deal with them in a close encounter if all you have is a .45ACP.

That said, you want a bullet that will penetrate as deeply as possible, which means the heaviest FMJ's you can get. A lot of them.

But, all your really gonna do is piss off a bear.

robinsre · 06-17-2007, 05:21 PM

Less expensive, and more effective than a .44 magnum would be a good 12 guage shotgun loaded with slugs.

ArmyGuy45 · 06-17-2007, 05:42 PM

im pretty sure if you let the bear get close enough.. to wear you can shoot it in the eyes/nose... that should work

KarolinaKid · 06-17-2007, 06:08 PM

Self Defense Round - Non Human...

Bree · 06-17-2007, 06:45 PM

Try some UDAP Bear Spray first. They do NOT like this stuff!! If the bear doesn't shoosh out of there after getting fogged by some 10% OC, try some Corbon DPX. It should do the job, I would think.

http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammunition/dpx_022305/
http://www.chuckhawks.com/cor-bon_DPX_pistol.htm

That stuff should either kill the bruin or you met your match.

fleshatomb@yahoo.com · 06-18-2007, 12:02 AM

Thanks bree for giving me some ammo to check out. I really wish cor-bon had a FMJ +p though.

I think a 45acp would work fine for the bear in my state. if i lived in alaska, i would definantly carry a 12 gauge with alternating loads of 00 buckshot and slugs. And i would much rather have 14 rounds of 45 acp with less recoil then 6 rounds of 44mag with lots more recoil which takes more time to line up your target. maybe thats me. i really doubt all a 45acp would do is piss off a bear unless you just totally missed or had all bad shots.

ArmyGuy45 · 06-18-2007, 12:07 AM

try this.. it might work

the_gunman1 · 06-18-2007, 12:10 AM

The Buffalo +P FMJFN would not be to bad as far as a .45 goes. I must agree with the shotgun Idea though.

the_gunman1 · 06-18-2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmyGuy45

try this.. it might work

That's funny right there!

06-17-2007, 03:26 PM	#1
fleshatomb@yahoo.com XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dunbar, WV Posts: 53	45acp ammo for black bear defense Im looking for a good 45acp +p Full Metal Jacket ammo for defense against black bears if the day would ever come. yes, i know, 44mag is the least you would want, but until I can afford a 44mag or .500 mag my 45 is the only hand gun I have. I live in WV and we just have black bears here, i dont think they get too big. Im not worried about hunting/hiking and running into a bear. its running into a momma bear and her cubs. Especially in the area i like to trout fish. So, what load would you recommend for my XD 45 service? Only thing I have found is buffalo bore 45acp +P ammo (230 gr. FMJFN @ 950 fps (461 ft. lbs.) I see they also have this '45 super' but after searching here it doesnt seem to be very practicle and you need a conversion and all this other stuff. any info is appreciated.

06-17-2007, 05:15 PM	#2
spamlovr XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Washougal, WA كافر Posts: 465	I advise you find other ways to avoid bears or deal with them in a close encounter if all you have is a .45ACP. That said, you want a bullet that will penetrate as deeply as possible, which means the heaviest FMJ's you can get. A lot of them. But, all your really gonna do is piss off a bear. __________________ Memento Mori (Remember, you are mortal) When seconds count, the police are only minutes away! People who are pissed at the government have generally underestimated their neighbors. Ziltoid The Omniscient for Supreme World Ruler 2008: "I am so omniscient, if there were 2 omniscient beings in the omniverse, I would be both of them! Bring me your planet's finest cup of coffee!"

06-17-2007, 05:21 PM	#3
robinsre XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,527	Less expensive, and more effective than a .44 magnum would be a good 12 guage shotgun loaded with slugs. __________________ Johnny was a chemist's son but Johnny is no more, what Johnny thought was H2O was H2SO4. Support bacteria, it's the only culture some people will ever have.' "Life exists at a level of complexity almost beyond our ability to comprehend, it's a well known fact that if you try to take apart a cat to see how it works one of the first things you have on your hands is a non-working cat" - Douglas Adams

06-17-2007, 06:08 PM	#5
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06-17-2007, 06:45 PM	#6
Bree XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 2,522 Blog Entries: 5	2 Suggestions Try some UDAP Bear Spray first. They do NOT like this stuff!! If the bear doesn't shoosh out of there after getting fogged by some 10% OC, try some Corbon DPX. It should do the job, I would think. http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammunition/dpx_022305/ http://www.chuckhawks.com/cor-bon_DPX_pistol.htm That stuff should either kill the bruin or you met your match. __________________ Shoot Straight and Ride Safe! Bree XD .45 Compact -- Ruger SP-101 .357 Mag. -- Keltec P3AT .380 Rock River Arms 20" Varmint A4 AR-15 w/4-16x56mm MilDot Mossberg 590 Mariner 12 Ga w/Knoxx SpecOps Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide Patriot Guard Rider Iron Butt Association Member The 60's Can't Die As Long As I Won't Leave Them!!

06-18-2007, 12:02 AM	#7
fleshatomb@yahoo.com XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dunbar, WV Posts: 53	Thanks bree for giving me some ammo to check out. I really wish cor-bon had a FMJ +p though. I think a 45acp would work fine for the bear in my state. if i lived in alaska, i would definantly carry a 12 gauge with alternating loads of 00 buckshot and slugs. And i would much rather have 14 rounds of 45 acp with less recoil then 6 rounds of 44mag with lots more recoil which takes more time to line up your target. maybe thats me. i really doubt all a 45acp would do is piss off a bear unless you just totally missed or had all bad shots.

06-18-2007, 12:10 AM	#9
the_gunman1 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,019	The Buffalo +P FMJFN would not be to bad as far as a .45 goes. I must agree with the shotgun Idea though. __________________ Brian Freedom is expensive...pay up or shut up. "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

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