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Troupe · 06-09-2007, 05:35 PM

I've shot my XD45 service over 1,000, hate to say now that you got me worried, never had a problem with my rod. I have been waiting for Don's guide rod for the 4" to come out and still waiting. Good luck my friend gope things work out.

Don · 06-09-2007, 05:59 PM

If your spring keeps your slide in battery and the brass flings about normal, you spring is fine. If you spring is fatiguing you would see the slide failing to stay in battery and the brass flinging to the next county, other than that don't worry about it!

ksxdguy · 06-09-2007, 06:53 PM

Replacing a recoil spring every 3000 rounds might be a good idea, but replacing the guide rod that often would indeed be absurd. Let me echo what Don said though. If the gun is functioning normally, relax and don't sweat it.

Super Trucker · 06-09-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ksxdguy

Replacing a recoil spring every 3000 rounds might be a good idea, but replacing the guide rod that often would indeed be absurd. Let me echo what Don said though. If the gun is functioning normally, relax and don't sweat it.

Isn't the spring and guide rod one unit on the XD?

ksxdguy · 06-09-2007, 07:14 PM

Yes it is. My post was misleading. It's true you'd also have to buy the guide rod along with the spring. However, if the gun's working, I still wouldn't worry about it.

Don · 06-09-2007, 07:36 PM

If springs (in general) operate in the right "zone" they can go millions of cycles (for instance the valve springs in your car). Many of the members with the 9mm/.40 factory springs are over 10K rounds. This says that the dual spring design has a good fatigue life for those models, and probably have a similar design life in the .45ACP. I can't speak from experience but I would expect a long life myself from the factory spring.
I play around with designs for different springs, but that is not because the factory spring is not a good choice, but because some may prefer a different recoil for a specific application. Alas I have nothing for the .45ACP Service, so the factory is what we have to work with, but it feels pretty good as is.

stroker · 06-10-2007, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jalley

Can you post a pic of of the guide rod? I haven't really heard of this type of problem before, and the fact that it has happened to two of your rods seems odd. The problem that i think youre describing, isn't really a problem, and that is what the guide rod is supposed to look like. Again, i might be wrong, but a pic would help.

If it looks like this, then you don't have a problem. This is normal.
Should my guide rod look like this after ~1500 rounds?

Mercmar, the reason the guide rod needs to be replaced around 3-5k rounds isn't because of the rod itself, but because the springs are worn out.

That's exactly what it looks like, & the rep said it would break throughSo she said it would be if I continued to shoot it with the rod like this.That's when she ask me how I wanted to pay the $ 20.05 cc or mail a check!

stroker · 06-10-2007, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Trucker

Isn't the spring and guide rod one unit on the XD?

YES IT IS

stroker · 06-10-2007, 05:38 AM

I guess i'll use it until it doesn't fire & hope to GOD that I ever have to defend my life with the S.O.B. it will fire! Thank's Guys for all the imput, & thank's to you Don For trying to calm my nerves. The weapon has never missfired are giving me any problems BUTT I don't want any either!

Mercmar · 06-10-2007, 03:24 PM

I know I could just go to their website, but does anybody know if Wolff makes a non-captive guide rod for XDs? I use their rods and springs in my Glocks and never have any spring/guide-rod related failures.

06-09-2007, 05:59 PM	#12
Don XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pullman, WA Posts: 4,182	If your spring keeps your slide in battery and the brass flings about normal, you spring is fine. If you spring is fatiguing you would see the slide failing to stay in battery and the brass flinging to the next county, other than that don't worry about it! __________________ Don geek with guns Why don\'t you all f-f-f-fade away.... FAQ - Don\'s Guide Rod

06-09-2007, 07:36 PM	#16
Don XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pullman, WA Posts: 4,182	If springs (in general) operate in the right "zone" they can go millions of cycles (for instance the valve springs in your car). Many of the members with the 9mm/.40 factory springs are over 10K rounds. This says that the dual spring design has a good fatigue life for those models, and probably have a similar design life in the .45ACP. I can't speak from experience but I would expect a long life myself from the factory spring. I play around with designs for different springs, but that is not because the factory spring is not a good choice, but because some may prefer a different recoil for a specific application. Alas I have nothing for the .45ACP Service, so the factory is what we have to work with, but it feels pretty good as is. __________________ Don geek with guns Why don\'t you all f-f-f-fade away.... FAQ - Don\'s Guide Rod

06-10-2007, 05:38 AM	#19
stroker XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cypress,Texas Posts: 439	I guess i'll use it until it doesn't fire & hope to GOD that I ever have to defend my life with the S.O.B. it will fire! Thank's Guys for all the imput, & thank's to you Don For trying to calm my nerves. The weapon has never missfired are giving me any problems BUTT I don't want any either! __________________ *If you don't stand for something,you'll fall for anything*

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06-09-2007, 05:35 PM	#11
Troupe XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15	I've shot my XD45 service over 1,000, hate to say now that you got me worried, never had a problem with my rod. I have been waiting for Don's guide rod for the 4" to come out and still waiting. Good luck my friend gope things work out.

06-09-2007, 06:53 PM	#13
ksxdguy XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 68	Replacing a recoil spring every 3000 rounds might be a good idea, but replacing the guide rod that often would indeed be absurd. Let me echo what Don said though. If the gun is functioning normally, relax and don't sweat it.

06-09-2007, 07:14 PM	#15
ksxdguy XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 68	Yes it is. My post was misleading. It's true you'd also have to buy the guide rod along with the spring. However, if the gun's working, I still wouldn't worry about it.

06-10-2007, 03:24 PM	#20
Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,638	I know I could just go to their website, but does anybody know if Wolff makes a non-captive guide rod for XDs? I use their rods and springs in my Glocks and never have any spring/guide-rod related failures.