self defense round

[fredj338]

Originally Posted by 78kitty

Has anyone tried the Remington Golden Saber's in 230 grain with their XD? I've been researching the best SD rounds also. One report / test I put a lot of stock in is the FBI's testing of various auto pistol cartridges. In .45ACP the 230 grain Golden Sabers fell w/in the recommended penetration (12-18 inches) for both the clothed and bare gelatin. They also expanded well and made the biggest wound volume (6.28 & 6.91 avg for each test).
While most modern ammo in 45 was acceptable, & the Fed HS and Speer GDs did great, the Golden Saber faired the best in most areas. I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried them in their XD's.

I ran 20 each of the 18gr & 230grGS throuigh my Tac last week. They fed flawlessly & accurracy was very good, right at 2" @ 15yds handheld. They expand well in wetpack, I like them.

[the_gunman1]

Originally Posted by Legend

I've never alternated shells... I'll carry a spare mag that is loaded with FMJs though.

Cool, me too.

[stroker]

The best defense ammo I ever found was 000 buckshot chamered in 3 inch magnum. "GIT-ER-DONE"

[GlockConvert]

I'm not sure I understand the idea of loading one mag of HPs and one mag of FMJs for use in cold weather. If a hollowpoint plugs up, it performs like ball ammo. Shooting at a heavily clad bad guy, your hollow points may not work perfectly (although DPX seems to be pretty good). Some may expand, some my plug up and perform like ball ammo. By carrying ball ammo, you give up any chance at expansion and gain nothing in return.

Mixed loading a shotgun never made much sense to me either, but that is a different post.

[jdmb03]

I use Remington 185gr gold dots.

[grizz]

230g HP CCW/HD and 230g FMJ in the woods. I always have 2 mags of each loaded. I just switch them depending on my location. No certain brand that I stick with exclusively.

The one thing I do is always practice with the same grain bullet as the one I'm carrying.

[M2XD]

Originally Posted by stroker

The best defense ammo I ever found was 000 buckshot chamered in 3 inch magnum. "GIT-ER-DONE"

I guess I'm a bit of a liberal, I only chamber 00 3 inch magnums...

The XD, with 14 JHP HydraShox 230-gr .45ACP rounds, is backup...

Cheers! M2

[GW45NUT]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

we can all talk about energy and penetration and expansion until the sun dies, the most important thing is shot placement. you put any round(s) in the right place, all modern ammo is going to get the job done.



what do you consider frigid weather where you'd carry FMJs?

This is the first post that makes the most sense to me. Shot placement is the most important element. A Remington STD velocity 230 gr hollowpoint and a high velocity 185 gr HP will both take someone out if placed properly.

[Heathen-Yak]

Originally Posted by 78kitty

Has anyone tried the Remington Golden Saber's in 230 grain with their XD? I've been researching the best SD rounds also. One report / test I put a lot of stock in is the FBI's testing of various auto pistol cartridges. In .45ACP the 230 grain Golden Sabers fell w/in the recommended penetration (12-18 inches) for both the clothed and bare gelatin. They also expanded well and made the biggest wound volume (6.28 & 6.91 avg for each test).

While most modern ammo in 45 was acceptable, & the Fed HS and Speer GDs did great, the Golden Saber faired the best in most areas. I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried them in their XD's.

I carry golden sabers in my xd, 230 grain. they shoot very well.