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Frisco Pete · 06-05-2007, 06:04 PM

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frisco, are you saying you use 230 gr. GoldDots in your .40?

Nah! Sorry about the confusion, but I already shoot 180s in the .40, so 185s in the .45 is a bit close or similar - therefore I use 230-gr. .45 ACP to stretch the range to a heavier, and classic .45 bullet weight much like Myk9noseknows and Compact Shooter in their earlier posts.

Twizted45 · 06-05-2007, 06:05 PM

For self defense i have a few different mags loaded up. The one i have been carrying lately is Powr Ball by Glaser there pretty stout little guys. I have another mag of Black Talons, I was carrying those for a while. And i have another mag of Speer Gold Dots.. you cant go wrong with those guys

jtkratzer · 06-06-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Twizted45

For self defense i have a few different mags loaded up. The one i have been carrying lately is Powr Ball by Glaser there pretty stout little guys. I have another mag of Black Talons, I was carrying those for a while. And i have another mag of Speer Gold Dots.. you cant go wrong with those guys

i've read that it's a good idea to keep that you have black talons to yourself. i've heard of over eager cops trying to get your for illegal/banned ammunition. not to mention how old they are now...

how old is your ithaca 37 featherweight? i have one from 1952.

Legend · 06-06-2007, 11:07 AM

Black Talons are NOT illegal to purchase or own most everywhere that I know of in the country... Possibly not legal to make them anymore though...

*shrugs* I just bought another box of off Gun Broker, FBI isn't knocking yet

fredj338 · 06-06-2007, 01:11 PM

Black Talons were never illegal to manf. Win. just pulled the line because of the negative publicity. The SXT line is basically the same bullet w/o the black coating. If you have them, use them, but you should be firing off your carry ammo every 6mos or so anyway.

the_gunman1 · 06-06-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IamtheNRA

Yeah, I heard something about that...of course, I live in Florida, so people don't wear much clothing here most of the year...even a .380 will get ya by in the summertime.

I have found the Federal 230 gr Hydrashoks to be very consistent in POI and flawlessly reliable. How do the Gold Dots compare price wise? I might try some of those...heard a lot of good things about 'em. I have a lot of ammo as it is...a few more boxes...er...cases wouldn't hurt!

I am in the "slow and heavy" bullet camp.

Gold Dots are usually very competatively priced with the Fed ammo. I only mentioned my tests in case it might be of concern to you. Personally if the Fed HS was the most reliable in my gun I'd shoot it too. Expansion is good but at least you have a .45 hole if it don't. I'm one who believes even the 230gr FMJ is a decent (not great just ok) load (because its a heavy slow mover the .45 is the only cal. I'd consider a FMJ in. Others will dissagree).

Legend · 06-06-2007, 03:43 PM

I fire off my carry ammo about every 2 months... More just for sh*ts and giggles than anything else

230gr FMJ has historic power, going back to WWII. Only reasons I would NEVER carry it in my carry pistol is worries of over penetration.

the_gunman1 · 06-06-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Legend

I fire off my carry ammo about every 2 months... More just for sh*ts and giggles than anything else

230gr FMJ has historic power, going back to WWII. Only reasons I would NEVER carry it in my carry pistol is worries of over penetration.

I hear you. The only time I willingly carry the 230FMJ is when I'm out in the woods hunting or camping ect. Especially in the winter.

jtkratzer · 06-06-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the_gunman1

I hear you. The only time I willingly carry the 230FMJ is when I'm out in the woods hunting or camping ect. Especially in the winter.

can you explain this? i understand the use of FMJs for animals, but the rest?

Legend · 06-06-2007, 08:45 PM

Feeding issues due to cold possibly even...

Well, if I had a shoot a bear with a little 45ACP, or any other large animal like that, or some badguy wearing lots of winter clothing, I'd want a FMJ, not a hollowpoint.

06-05-2007, 06:05 PM	#22
Twizted45 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: OBX, NC Posts: 14	For self defense i have a few different mags loaded up. The one i have been carrying lately is Powr Ball by Glaser there pretty stout little guys. I have another mag of Black Talons, I was carrying those for a while. And i have another mag of Speer Gold Dots.. you cant go wrong with those guys __________________ Draft Beer, Not Soldiers.. Petty Officer Third Class United States Coast Guard The List.... Springfield XD 45acp Black Service Model Coonan Cadet II .357 Mag Remington 870 Express Magnum Ithica Deer Slayer Model 37 Featherlight

06-06-2007, 11:07 AM	#24
Legend XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 107	Black Talons are NOT illegal to purchase or own most everywhere that I know of in the country... Possibly not legal to make them anymore though... shrugs I just bought another box of off Gun Broker, FBI isn't knocking yet __________________ _________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing, which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than him." -- John Stewart Mill (1806-1873) *____________________*

06-06-2007, 03:43 PM	#27
Legend XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 107	I fire off my carry ammo about every 2 months... More just for shts and giggles than anything else 230gr FMJ has historic power, going back to WWII. Only reasons I would NEVER carry it in my carry pistol is worries of over penetration. __________________ _________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing, which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than him." -- John Stewart Mill (1806-1873) ____________________*

06-06-2007, 08:45 PM	#30
Legend XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 107	Feeding issues due to cold possibly even... Well, if I had a shoot a bear with a little 45ACP, or any other large animal like that, or some badguy wearing lots of winter clothing, I'd want a FMJ, not a hollowpoint. __________________ _________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing, which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than him." -- John Stewart Mill (1806-1873) *____________________*

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06-06-2007, 01:11 PM	#25
fredj338 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,334	Black Talons were never illegal to manf. Win. just pulled the line because of the negative publicity. The SXT line is basically the same bullet w/o the black coating. If you have them, use them, but you should be firing off your carry ammo every 6mos or so anyway.