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MiamiTJ · 06-02-2007, 06:59 PM

I'm going to search on proper grip now and see if I am missing something. I'm also going to try reversing my thumbs.

I actually did not really care about or notice the muzzle flip much till I saw the picture and was left a little

Also, good point on the porting for carry. BUT, the flash is so fast that I wonder how much it really would mess with my night vision.

PSALM109 · 06-02-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiTJ

...BUT, the flash is so fast that I wonder how much it really would mess with my night vision.

IMO, from an LEO position, I sincerely doubt it would blind you to the point of having your night vision impaired

But again, the only one who really knows is the person who has had to pull the trigger after dark.

MiamiTJ · 06-02-2007, 08:12 PM

So after 13 years of shooting well I'm going to test changing my grip to the "straight thumbs method" as recommended by the great information I have found here on this forum. Thanks to everyone, especially Loves2Shoot who helped supply the info I found on the links/posts below. (I'm going to post the links for the info I found to help another find it easier)

Lets see if the wife lets me go shooting tomorrow. Can you guys help me with that too ? lol ...

I found all the great info I needed here:

XD9 Grip Position Epiphany

http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_t...306/index.html

Love2Shoots Vids here: http://www.springerprecision.com/video.asp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48

aubie515 · 06-02-2007, 08:23 PM

Have you ever fired a ported pistol? I can tell you from owning one that I wouldn't use a ported pistol as my carry piece. Shoot a mag through a ported pistol and you will understand. The noise from a ported pistol will cause you to lose your hearing. I would highly recommend finding a ported pistol and shooting it without ear protection before you pay someone to port your XD.

Chewie146 · 06-02-2007, 10:22 PM

+1 here. Those ported pistols are LOUD. I've shot a few and in my experience, a 2" .357 (for example) is not as loud as a 4" with porting. That noise just goes up.

jtkratzer · 06-02-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiTJ

I'm going to search on proper grip now and see if I am missing something. I'm also going to try reversing my thumbs.

I actually did not really care about or notice the muzzle flip much till I saw the picture and was left a little

Also, good point on the porting for carry. BUT, the flash is so fast that I wonder how much it really would mess with my night vision.

how quick and brief is a camera flash? how long does that annoying spot keep hanging around?

PSALM109 · 06-02-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aubie515

Have you ever fired a ported pistol? I can tell you from owning one that I wouldn't use a ported pistol as my carry piece. Shoot a mag through a ported pistol and you will understand. The noise from a ported pistol will cause you to lose your hearing. I would highly recommend finding a ported pistol and shooting it without ear protection before you pay someone to port your XD.

I would agree, but WE will take an unpopular hit on this one.

I mentioned something similar awhile back, to what you have submitted for one's consideration when looking to port a barrel and I was amazed at the members here who nearly went into Cardiac Arrest at the recommendation for someone to fire a pistol "without ear protection."

You would have thought I was advocating shooting without ear muffs on a regular basis.

The bottom line is...it certainly punctuates the point on whether nor not one would want to modify their XD like that or not, irregardless of the pot shots we take in illustrating the point

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Originally Posted by jtkratzer

how quick and brief is a camera flash? how long does that annoying spot keep hanging around?

WHAT FLASH? Oh, not long enough!

Hey, anyone remember the "ole adrenaline argument" from times past!?! If I am not mistaken, I believe the consensus was that with the adrenaline rush experienced in the heat of the moment of having to pull the trigger on a BG, the "loudness" of the bang would not even be remembered!?!

Well, IMHO...the same rings true with the "flash" from a ported barrel.

So, is our concern the FLASH or the LOUD BANG???

Shall we experiment or not!?!

Palmguy · 06-02-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PSALM109

WHAT FLASH? Oh, not long enough!

Hey, anyone remember the "ole adrenaline argument" from times past!?! If I am not mistaken, I believe the consensus was that with the adrenaline rush experienced in the heat of the moment of having to pull the trigger on a BG, the "loudness" of the bang would not even be remembered!?!

Well, IMHO...the same rings true with the "flash" from a ported barrel.

Hearing is nowhere near as important, if important at all, at making an accurate and timely shot as your vision.

PSALM109 · 06-02-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Palmguy

Hearing is nowhere near as important, if important at all, at making an accurate and timely shot as your vision.

IMO, I'm thinking the whole sound and flash issues mentioned here are pretty much equal in proportion to the level of concern that should be extended!?!

Grant it, our ability to see is tops, because if you can't see where your shooting, then you end up getting shot.

However, the flash from a ported barrel is minimal in it's ability to fatally impair one at night time.

Got thoughts

Myk9noseknows · 06-02-2007, 11:36 PM

I have a G32 that is ported. Anyone who has shot this know's it is a HOT .357 round. I've shot CorBon and GD in it at night and can honestly say that the 'muzzle flash' is basically a urban legend. It does not affect my night vision, or the night vision of the guys I shoot with. We soot from dusk to well into the night around 10:30-11:00pm. Nobody is blind, you can acquire your target easily, and we are actually on the move while doing this, not just punching paper.
But to be fair, the CorBon is designed as a reduced muzzle flash. We do quite a few night scenario's and are going to start filming them. Once that's done I can post them for you guys.
I know that the muzzle flash seems like it would be an issue, but I hate it when people spread this rumor without any experience with night time compensated handguns. It's like the Richard Gere/Gerbil thing...nobody's seen it first hand, but everyone has heard about it and probably believes it.
From first hand knowledge I can honestly say night flash from a ported barrel is of no concern.

06-02-2007, 06:59 PM	#11
MiamiTJ XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 140	I'm going to search on proper grip now and see if I am missing something. I'm also going to try reversing my thumbs. I actually did not really care about or notice the muzzle flip much till I saw the picture and was left a little Also, good point on the porting for carry. BUT, the flash is so fast that I wonder how much it really would mess with my night vision. __________________ Omi R. NRA Certified Instructor http://www.cwlmiami.com

06-02-2007, 08:12 PM	#13
MiamiTJ XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 140	So after 13 years of shooting well I'm going to test changing my grip to the "straight thumbs method" as recommended by the great information I have found here on this forum. Thanks to everyone, especially Loves2Shoot who helped supply the info I found on the links/posts below. (I'm going to post the links for the info I found to help another find it easier) Lets see if the wife lets me go shooting tomorrow. Can you guys help me with that too ? lol ... I found all the great info I needed here: XD9 Grip Position Epiphany http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_t...306/index.html Love2Shoots Vids here: http://www.springerprecision.com/video.asp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48 __________________ Omi R. NRA Certified Instructor http://www.cwlmiami.com

06-02-2007, 10:22 PM	#15
Chewie146 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Alamos Posts: 727	+1 here. Those ported pistols are LOUD. I've shot a few and in my experience, a 2" .357 (for example) is not as loud as a 4" with porting. That noise just goes up. __________________ ----------------------------------------------------------- "Beware the man with one gun..." Befriend the man with 30?

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06-02-2007, 08:23 PM	#14
aubie515 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pottstown, PA Posts: 209	Have you ever fired a ported pistol? I can tell you from owning one that I wouldn't use a ported pistol as my carry piece. Shoot a mag through a ported pistol and you will understand. The noise from a ported pistol will cause you to lose your hearing. I would highly recommend finding a ported pistol and shooting it without ear protection before you pay someone to port your XD.

06-02-2007, 11:36 PM	#20
Myk9noseknows XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,981	I have a G32 that is ported. Anyone who has shot this know's it is a HOT .357 round. I've shot CorBon and GD in it at night and can honestly say that the 'muzzle flash' is basically a urban legend. It does not affect my night vision, or the night vision of the guys I shoot with. We soot from dusk to well into the night around 10:30-11:00pm. Nobody is blind, you can acquire your target easily, and we are actually on the move while doing this, not just punching paper. But to be fair, the CorBon is designed as a reduced muzzle flash. We do quite a few night scenario's and are going to start filming them. Once that's done I can post them for you guys. I know that the muzzle flash seems like it would be an issue, but I hate it when people spread this rumor without any experience with night time compensated handguns. It's like the Richard Gere/Gerbil thing...nobody's seen it first hand, but everyone has heard about it and probably believes it. From first hand knowledge I can honestly say night flash from a ported barrel is of no concern.