Self Defense Round - Non Human...

[Alaskapopo]

Originally Posted by Johnny5

If your only defense is a 45, might I suggest purchasing some 45 Super ammo. I wouldn't run an IPSC event with it since it would beat up your gun. But if you're only going to need a mag or two, then the 45 Super should give you better knock down power. When I hike, I carry 45 Super by Buffalo Bore, 230 grain Hollow points, in my S&W 625 with a 4" barrel.

There is no such thing as knockdown power. For the bullet to knock the target down the gun would knock the shooter down when it was fired. Perhaps you mean more energy and momentium.
Pat

[LMTD]

I have heard pepper spray before and it was based upon the extra sensitive noses of the bear and the highly irritating affect the spray has, but I do not know.

I was just wondering if the repugnant odor of what was in my pants after the point the bear charged would have a similar effect since I am almost 100% sure it would be availible long before the bear was within 25 feet!

I would not enter the woods in an area where serious critters were wandering without serious fire power. Shoot, most trips around here in Missouri are totally safe, but I most often have the 300 mag with me as I trample the weeds. I would not feel real safe even with that if a bear was within 50 yards of me and acted pissed.

[Johnny5]

Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

There is no such thing as knockdown power. For the bullet to knock the target down the gun would knock the shooter down when it was fired. Perhaps you mean more energy and momentium.
Pat

Yes thats what I meant . The 45 Super gives over 600 Ft/lb whereas the 45ACP+P I think is rated in the 400s.

[Alaskapopo]

Originally Posted by Johnny5

Yes thats what I meant . The 45 Super gives over 600 Ft/lb whereas the 45ACP+P I think is rated in the 400s.

Actually most +p 45's are around 500. But I don't care about that so much. What matters is penetration and expansion. If bullet A expands to .95 caliber and goes 14 inches with 400 footpounds. Its just as good as bullet B that goes 14 inches and expands to .95 caliber with 600 foot pounds.
Pat