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ironassassin · 04-06-2007, 03:25 PM

I'm new to the forum and own a xd 45 compact and currently loaded with 230 grain federal hydra shok I live in a frame house with thin walls
would you recommend this round for home defense.

45 AUTO+P SILVER 145 GR. 1350 FPS/ 587 FTLBS GLASER SAFETY

**agalindo** · 04-06-2007, 03:34 PM

I wouldn't use them for anything. Stick to the hollow points.

**jnclement** · 04-06-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ironassassin

I'm new to the forum and own a xd 45 compact and currently loaded with 230 grain federal hydra shok I live in a frame house with thin walls
would you recommend this round for home defense.

45 AUTO+P SILVER 145 GR. 1350 FPS/ 587 FTLBS GLASER SAFETY

Sure. As long as they feed, why not?

**agalindo** · 04-06-2007, 04:00 PM

Check this link out the title says it all.

Prefragmented Bullets: Dangerously Inadequate for Personal Defense

http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs5.htm

john wist · 04-06-2007, 09:12 PM

Stick with a good JHP and PRACTICE, PRACTICE and PRACTICE some more

Super Trucker · 04-10-2007, 09:41 PM

Just use a shotgun in the house.

jeepinbanditrider · 04-10-2007, 10:01 PM

Even though Air Marshalls carry them (from what I have read) I think this is mainly a Public Relations issue. Most people think that if you put a small bullet hole in the side of an aircraft the damn thing comes apart. Which is untrue. If people found out they were packing ammo that could go though a planes skin they might freak out a little.

The frangible ammo should be reserved for range use where they may not allow the use of FMJ ammo.

Speer Gold Dots all the way baby.

sevesteen · 04-10-2007, 10:29 PM

Assuming this is the version I'm familiar with, there are two reasons I wouldn't use it. First, and most important: The tests I've seen say it only works well in very optimal conditions. Second, I won't trust carry ammo until I've verified that it will feed and fire at least 50 rounds without a problem, and I won't continue to trust it unless I fire a mag every few months. That's kind of expensive with Glaser.

Xpur3L0g1cX · 04-11-2007, 07:55 AM

I can tell you, I picked up the .45 glaser blue safety, and I setup the mag to have one ever 4th round. I did the whole homemade ballistics gel with 10 %, and I shot some hydrashock into it and those didnt even mushroom and then i shot speer gold dot into it and those mushroomed everytime, and then i shot the glaser blue and the whole dang block exploded, and it was peppered with little metal fragments. I have it as my first round in the chamber and swear by them. Just hope I never have to use them. itll be Ugly

Collander · 04-11-2007, 07:59 AM

When people conduct those studies, how many instances are researched of actual shootings and damage to people? Testing is all fine and dandy, but when it comes down to it, are these defensive loads really all that much different as far as the end result, stopping your attacker? As long as it stops someone I could care less if it blows off a shoulder or liquefies every internal organ it comes near.

04-06-2007, 03:25 PM	#1
ironassassin XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7	thoughts on glaser safety slugs I'm new to the forum and own a xd 45 compact and currently loaded with 230 grain federal hydra shok I live in a frame house with thin walls would you recommend this round for home defense. 45 AUTO+P SILVER 145 GR. 1350 FPS/ 587 FTLBS GLASER SAFETY

04-10-2007, 10:01 PM	#7
jeepinbanditrider XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineral Wells, Tx Posts: 4,772	Even though Air Marshalls carry them (from what I have read) I think this is mainly a Public Relations issue. Most people think that if you put a small bullet hole in the side of an aircraft the damn thing comes apart. Which is untrue. If people found out they were packing ammo that could go though a planes skin they might freak out a little. The frangible ammo should be reserved for range use where they may not allow the use of FMJ ammo. Speer Gold Dots all the way baby. __________________ Stuff USPSA-A59201

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04-06-2007, 09:12 PM	#5
john wist XDTalk Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 73	Stick with a good JHP and PRACTICE, PRACTICE and PRACTICE some more

04-10-2007, 09:41 PM	#6
Super Trucker XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 415	Just use a shotgun in the house.

04-10-2007, 10:29 PM	#8
sevesteen XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 29	Assuming this is the version I'm familiar with, there are two reasons I wouldn't use it. First, and most important: The tests I've seen say it only works well in very optimal conditions. Second, I won't trust carry ammo until I've verified that it will feed and fire at least 50 rounds without a problem, and I won't continue to trust it unless I fire a mag every few months. That's kind of expensive with Glaser.

04-11-2007, 07:55 AM	#9
Xpur3L0g1cX XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 8	I can tell you, I picked up the .45 glaser blue safety, and I setup the mag to have one ever 4th round. I did the whole homemade ballistics gel with 10 %, and I shot some hydrashock into it and those didnt even mushroom and then i shot speer gold dot into it and those mushroomed everytime, and then i shot the glaser blue and the whole dang block exploded, and it was peppered with little metal fragments. I have it as my first round in the chamber and swear by them. Just hope I never have to use them. itll be Ugly

04-11-2007, 07:59 AM	#10
Collander XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 734	When people conduct those studies, how many instances are researched of actual shootings and damage to people? Testing is all fine and dandy, but when it comes down to it, are these defensive loads really all that much different as far as the end result, stopping your attacker? As long as it stops someone I could care less if it blows off a shoulder or liquefies every internal organ it comes near.