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RickInTampa · 02-07-2007, 04:57 PM

I have read many of the forums on this board, and I've learned a great deal. But the one thing I have not come across yet, is conversation about situations where one was compelled to draw their weapon.

So let me ask... Has anyone ever found themselves in a situation where they had to draw their weapon? If so, can you please describe what happened. Please include the consequences (if any) of your decision.

As a practical matter, I think it would be beneficial for people to learn and hopefully understand the full implications of actually having to put your training into practice.

Thanks in advance.

hellagerms · 02-07-2007, 05:03 PM

cntrl-c-v from an older post I did.

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I do (carry SOB), I had to draw my weapon in vehicle a month or so ago. It was a fast smooth draw and it stopped everything fast.

All I could think about was how loud this sh*t was going to be. And I was going to shoot across the face of my driver who is an Airborne buddy of mine who reacted fast by retracting his neck and head to the rear of his headrest. It was funny as hell about ten minutes later because the only thing he was thinking about was the muzzle blast blowing his ears out again!

As I said, the situation defused and no one had to die that day. But it was sure funny to look back on.

The thing about drawing is you have to practice, practice, practice. I practice all holsters and shooting positions with the chairs at my range. I will sit on a chair and draw and shoot across to my 9 or 3. Just be safe. Practice instills instinct and reaction. Which in turn allows you to think about the important stuff like considering who gets smoked first (target priority).

badbot · 02-07-2007, 09:45 PM

Well it was a long time ago. when guns were metal. I was working in east LA. 2 guys were walking down the street to the gate of the shop. one was carring a pipe and the other picked up a 2x4, I suspected no good would come of this. they turned into the yard. I yelled do you need something? they kept coming. I yelled is there something I can do for you?
they kept coming. I pulled my 44 and crossed my arms and said are you sure I can't do something for you! they made a slow left U turn and went looking for easyer pickins. the closest they got was 10 yards. 7 was my DeadLine! I am glad it worked out, that would take some serious explaining to the powers that be.

ichy_trigger · 02-07-2007, 10:07 PM

I have drawn my gun 2 times in the past 3 years.

One... Sitting on the front porch at night and a Suburban pulls up out front. All doors open and about 6 mexicans pile out and start heading up to my house. They crossed the sidewalk and I asked if I could help them. They never blinked and kept coming, I asked again, same reaction. I pulled my handgun out and didnt point it but just let them see what I was doing and kept my hand in my lap, at this point they were 15 feet away. They quickly asked for someone by name, at which time I told them they had the wrong house. They smiled, said they were sorry and left. No police called.

2nd time
Wife and I were walking the dogs and a Pitbull came out from between 2 houses and ran straight for us. I wrapped my hand around my 75 lb dogs leash to hold him back and drew my pistol, takign the safety off as I brought the gun up and took a sight picture. The dog squared off with my other dog that my wife had, who is about 55 lbs, my wife began panicking. I moved to the side and told her I was not walking away, only opting for a better shot (side of dog). She drew her pepper spray as I told her to walk backwards and cross the street. The dog never growled or showed anything but curiousity. After the wife had crossed the road, I walked backwards and crossed too. That dog shadowed us for a block and then left. This happend in daylight and no one called the police.

I know someone will ask, so...
First encounter I drew a Sig in .357sig
Second encounter I drew a 1911 in .45

RickInTampa · 02-08-2007, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hellagerms

cntrl-c-v from an older post I did.

------

I do (carry SOB), I had to draw my weapon in vehicle a month or so ago. It was a fast smooth draw and it stopped everything fast.

All I could think about was how loud this sh*t was going to be. And I was going to shoot across the face of my driver who is an Airborne buddy of mine who reacted fast by retracting his neck and head to the rear of his headrest. It was funny as hell about ten minutes later because the only thing he was thinking about was the muzzle blast blowing his ears out again!

As I said, the situation defused and no one had to die that day. But it was sure funny to look back on.

The thing about drawing is you have to practice, practice, practice. I practice all holsters and shooting positions with the chairs at my range. I will sit on a chair and draw and shoot across to my 9 or 3. Just be safe. Practice instills instinct and reaction. Which in turn allows you to think about the important stuff like considering who gets smoked first (target priority).

It's great that the range you frequent allows you to practice like that. From a chair I mean. The ranges I go to will only allow you to stand and shoot. You're not even allowed to "fast shoot" as they call it.

If I understand your post correctly, you were the passenger and pulled from the SOB position with a seatbelt on? That's a long way around to the drivers window from a tight spot. What were you carrying by the way? Just goes to show you... Practice makes perfect.

hellagerms · 02-08-2007, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RickInTampa

It's great that the range you frequent allows you to practice like that. From a chair I mean. The ranges I go to will only allow you to stand and shoot. You're not even allowed to "fast shoot" as they call it.

If I understand your post correctly, you were the passenger and pulled from the SOB position with a seatbelt on? That's a long way around to the drivers window from a tight spot. What were you carrying by the way? Just goes to show you... Practice makes perfect.

I was carrying my xd45 tactical that day. I had been carrying my PX4 alot then too. Yep with the seatbelt on as well. We had just got into the vehicle, I saw this guy about 2 ft from his door, pointed towards the guy to let my buddy know and drew at the same time, he lowered his window, guy reached into the cab with his hands, I squared off with the big bore. Instantly diffused, he said he was sorry, hes an addict, and ran.

Drawing is smooth from sob in a vehicle for me, all I have to do is lean forward, and since threat was driver side, it was all a smooth motion.

D_Fence · 02-08-2007, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hellagerms

We had just got into the vehicle, I saw this guy about 2 ft from his door, pointed towards the guy to let my buddy know and drew at the same time, he lowered his window, guy reached into the cab with his hands, I squared off with the big bore. Instantly diffused, he said he was sorry, hes an addict, and ran.

I don't think this sequence of events would look good in court. Do you live in a state with a duty to retreat outside of your home?

Tiburon65 · 02-08-2007, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RickInTampa

Just goes to show you... Practice makes perfect.

you can practice drawing and presentation anywhere. You can practice a 1000 times before you try it at the range. at that point it will be muscle memory and your range time wil be more effective.

Wave · 02-08-2007, 05:42 AM

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RickInTampa · 02-08-2007, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hellagerms

I was carrying my xd45 tactical that day. I had been carrying my PX4 alot then too. Yep with the seatbelt on as well. We had just got into the vehicle, I saw this guy about 2 ft from his door, pointed towards the guy to let my buddy know and drew at the same time, he lowered his window, guy reached into the cab with his hands, I squared off with the big bore. Instantly diffused, he said he was sorry, hes an addict, and ran.

Drawing is smooth from sob in a vehicle for me, all I have to do is lean forward, and since threat was driver side, it was all a smooth motion.

That's great to hear. I have an XD .45 Tac on order myself. And I plan on using it as a carry gun. I didn't think (as some friends have told me) that it is to big to use as a carry gun. Your story proves I'm right.

02-07-2007, 04:57 PM	#1
RickInTampa XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 77	Did you ever need to draw your gun? I have read many of the forums on this board, and I've learned a great deal. But the one thing I have not come across yet, is conversation about situations where one was compelled to draw their weapon. So let me ask... Has anyone ever found themselves in a situation where they had to draw their weapon? If so, can you please describe what happened. Please include the consequences (if any) of your decision. As a practical matter, I think it would be beneficial for people to learn and hopefully understand the full implications of actually having to put your training into practice. Thanks in advance.

02-07-2007, 09:45 PM	#3
badbot XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5	pulled my gun Well it was a long time ago. when guns were metal. I was working in east LA. 2 guys were walking down the street to the gate of the shop. one was carring a pipe and the other picked up a 2x4, I suspected no good would come of this. they turned into the yard. I yelled do you need something? they kept coming. I yelled is there something I can do for you? they kept coming. I pulled my 44 and crossed my arms and said are you sure I can't do something for you! they made a slow left U turn and went looking for easyer pickins. the closest they got was 10 yards. 7 was my DeadLine! I am glad it worked out, that would take some serious explaining to the powers that be.

02-07-2007, 10:07 PM	#4
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,417	I have drawn my gun 2 times in the past 3 years. One... Sitting on the front porch at night and a Suburban pulls up out front. All doors open and about 6 mexicans pile out and start heading up to my house. They crossed the sidewalk and I asked if I could help them. They never blinked and kept coming, I asked again, same reaction. I pulled my handgun out and didnt point it but just let them see what I was doing and kept my hand in my lap, at this point they were 15 feet away. They quickly asked for someone by name, at which time I told them they had the wrong house. They smiled, said they were sorry and left. No police called. 2nd time Wife and I were walking the dogs and a Pitbull came out from between 2 houses and ran straight for us. I wrapped my hand around my 75 lb dogs leash to hold him back and drew my pistol, takign the safety off as I brought the gun up and took a sight picture. The dog squared off with my other dog that my wife had, who is about 55 lbs, my wife began panicking. I moved to the side and told her I was not walking away, only opting for a better shot (side of dog). She drew her pepper spray as I told her to walk backwards and cross the street. The dog never growled or showed anything but curiousity. After the wife had crossed the road, I walked backwards and crossed too. That dog shadowed us for a block and then left. This happend in daylight and no one called the police. I know someone will ask, so... First encounter I drew a Sig in .357sig Second encounter I drew a 1911 in .45 __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

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02-07-2007, 05:03 PM	#2
hellagerms XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In orbitals Posts: 4,252	cntrl-c-v from an older post I did. ------ I do (carry SOB), I had to draw my weapon in vehicle a month or so ago. It was a fast smooth draw and it stopped everything fast. All I could think about was how loud this sh*t was going to be. And I was going to shoot across the face of my driver who is an Airborne buddy of mine who reacted fast by retracting his neck and head to the rear of his headrest. It was funny as hell about ten minutes later because the only thing he was thinking about was the muzzle blast blowing his ears out again! As I said, the situation defused and no one had to die that day. But it was sure funny to look back on. The thing about drawing is you have to practice, practice, practice. I practice all holsters and shooting positions with the chairs at my range. I will sit on a chair and draw and shoot across to my 9 or 3. Just be safe. Practice instills instinct and reaction. Which in turn allows you to think about the important stuff like considering who gets smoked first (target priority).