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Miguel · 12-22-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Wu Wei

It did say he was a competitive shooter, so he had access to "gaming" (low recoil) loads. I bet he had a competition round in his gun, enough to cycle the slide but low recoil = low penetration.

You might be on to something there. He might have not killed the BG, but at least he kept the BG from shooting at him.

Miguel · 12-22-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercmar

9mm is designed to penetrate the skulls of humans, not simians.

Yeah, Neandertals were not in the plans of whoever designed the 9mm round.

**XDAndMe** · 12-22-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

Yeah, Neandertals were not in the plans of whoever designed the 9mm round.

God designed the 9mm round. And since enough American christians say evolution doesn't exist, then it must be that God designed the 9mm round specifically for man, not beast.

For beast He designed the 12ga. And so it is written. Amen.

Badshot · 12-22-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by XDAndMe

God designed the 9mm round. And since enough American christians say evolution doesn't exist, then it must be that God designed the 9mm round specifically for man, not beast.

For beast He designed the 12ga. And so it is written. Amen.

aaaahhhhhh---rrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighty-----------then............

+10000000

Good thing my soft body armor is rated for both.. and then some.

The fact of any shooting is shot placement.. shoot to kill, no matter the caliber.

**XDAndMe** · 12-22-2006, 01:57 PM

hahaha, it was just meant as a joke.

I would definately reach for my shotgun over the XD though any day.

mojust · 12-22-2006, 07:37 PM

I would imagine a Speer Gold Dot, Remington Golden Sabre, Federal HST in 9 mil would penetrate this guy's skull if it hit him dead on. A lot of freak things happen in shootings. A lot of people have been taken out with a 9 millimeter round. There are plenty of cases of people being hit with .45's and not going down. I think it's a crap shoot. There's no guaranteeing anything in a shooting, but in most cases, if you shoot somebody with anything, they'll stop bothering you.

gsh341 · 12-22-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercmar

9mm is designed to penetrate the skulls of humans, not simians.

Apparently, even human skulls, bones and teeth are occasionally enough to stop them.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/teeth.asp

This sergeant was shot in the face just below the nose (from a distance of a few feet mind you) and all he lost was some skin and a tooth.

Captain Jack · 12-22-2006, 11:25 PM

Should've used JHP rounds.

I think this is one of those "one in a million" cases.

NM3GNR · 12-25-2006, 05:48 AM

My dad was a paramedic for many years and told me of a shooting in a bar. at about three feet a guy was shot with a .38 special in the forehead with a 158 gr jhp. It went in on the forehead and followed the skull around and lodged in the base of the neck and never came out, and the guy lived.

Now, do not jump all around on this next info, it is just my opinion from many years of knowing law enforcement and shooting incident attorneys.

IF AT ALL COST, DO NOT CARRY SELF MADE AMMUNITION FOR SELF DEFENSE !!

You do not want a life depending on any of our reloading abilities, and no matter what happens, a good attorney will hang you out to dry if you shoot someone with home made ammo.

IMHO

Good Luck !

xray · 12-25-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by amishclark

nice .jpg, asshat.

HaHa "asshat" that is a good one. I read that just after I went to his jpg image. I'm going to use it " asshat " HaHa

12-22-2006, 07:37 PM	#26
mojust XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: connecticut Posts: 169	I would imagine a Speer Gold Dot, Remington Golden Sabre, Federal HST in 9 mil would penetrate this guy's skull if it hit him dead on. A lot of freak things happen in shootings. A lot of people have been taken out with a 9 millimeter round. There are plenty of cases of people being hit with .45's and not going down. I think it's a crap shoot. There's no guaranteeing anything in a shooting, but in most cases, if you shoot somebody with anything, they'll stop bothering you. __________________ Sig 228, 226 Blackwater, S&W 60, Mossberg 590, XD .45 ACP, Springfield 1911, Smith 1911. Happiness is a warm gun

12-25-2006, 05:48 AM	#29
NM3GNR XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 38	Gaming ammo and weird incidents My dad was a paramedic for many years and told me of a shooting in a bar. at about three feet a guy was shot with a .38 special in the forehead with a 158 gr jhp. It went in on the forehead and followed the skull around and lodged in the base of the neck and never came out, and the guy lived. Now, do not jump all around on this next info, it is just my opinion from many years of knowing law enforcement and shooting incident attorneys. IF AT ALL COST, DO NOT CARRY SELF MADE AMMUNITION FOR SELF DEFENSE !! You do not want a life depending on any of our reloading abilities, and no matter what happens, a good attorney will hang you out to dry if you shoot someone with home made ammo. IMHO Good Luck !

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12-22-2006, 01:57 PM	#25
XDAndMe XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PA, USA Posts: 3,402	hahaha, it was just meant as a joke. I would definately reach for my shotgun over the XD though any day.

12-22-2006, 11:25 PM	#28
Captain Jack XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,765	Should've used JHP rounds. I think this is one of those "one in a million" cases.