Tungsten GR, what # spring? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

Pappa Bear · 12-17-2006, 06:27 PM

I am looking into getting a Tungsten Guide rod for my XD45 Tactical, but do not know what # spring to get. I here people use different springs?

What # is in it now? via SA.

Any help greatly appreciated?

Don · 12-17-2006, 07:38 PM

The spring is mostly acting on the slide motion, So the mass of the slide and the power of the load are related to the recoil spring weight. Think of a tungsten rod as additional weight on the frame helping resist muzzle flip. Only change one thing at a time to see that is going on. Change the rod, see how it feels and maybe that alone will make it fine. Then change springs to see what effect that has for you.

From my 3D models a solid tungsten alloy rod would weigh about 4.8 oz (depends on the actual alloy).
My stainless rod weighs about 2.2 oz.
My factory rod weighs just over 0.8oz.
So you could be adding 4 oz. over factory.

Pappa Bear · 12-17-2006, 09:18 PM

You sound like you know the whole guide rod situation. Do you feel a tungsten guide rod is noticable in controlling muzzle flip?

Don · 12-17-2006, 09:52 PM

I did not feel much difference with my 9mm Service models, but with the Tactical it is noticable weight.

Playing with the math, a tungsten core it in the stock rod could add about 2.8 oz.

I have not actually tried these in my .45ACP Tactical, but I would think it would tame the muzzle quite a bit.

Neomet · 12-17-2006, 10:00 PM

Just got my tungsten rod for my .45 ACP Tac. Two words: Get one. Noticeably reduced muzzle flip. The gun does feel more nose heavy but I actually kinda like it. If it weren't my carry gun I would send the trigger back out to have it knocked down to 2 lbs and use it as an L10 gun.

Hell, I may just shoot it in production and scare all those folks used to the sound of 9mms with bunnyfart loads in them with the sound of the .45 going off. I'm not really competetive anyways so what the heck!

12-17-2006, 06:27 PM	#1
Pappa Bear XDTalk Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 30	Tungsten GR, what # spring? I am looking into getting a Tungsten Guide rod for my XD45 Tactical, but do not know what # spring to get. I here people use different springs? What # is in it now? via SA. Any help greatly appreciated? __________________ XD45 Bi-tone TAC, TFO's, Tungsten GR XD40 TAC, Trijicon Night Sights XD40 SC, TFO's SA TRP Kimber TLE/RL II "No other success in life, can compensate for failure in the home."

12-17-2006, 07:38 PM	#2
Don XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pullman, WA Posts: 4,241	The spring is mostly acting on the slide motion, So the mass of the slide and the power of the load are related to the recoil spring weight. Think of a tungsten rod as additional weight on the frame helping resist muzzle flip. Only change one thing at a time to see that is going on. Change the rod, see how it feels and maybe that alone will make it fine. Then change springs to see what effect that has for you. From my 3D models a solid tungsten alloy rod would weigh about 4.8 oz (depends on the actual alloy). My stainless rod weighs about 2.2 oz. My factory rod weighs just over 0.8oz. So you could be adding 4 oz. over factory. __________________ Don geek with guns Why don\'t you all f-f-f-fade away.... FAQ - Don\'s Guide Rod

12-17-2006, 09:18 PM	#3
Pappa Bear XDTalk Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 30	Do you like Tungsten GR's You sound like you know the whole guide rod situation. Do you feel a tungsten guide rod is noticable in controlling muzzle flip? __________________ XD45 Bi-tone TAC, TFO's, Tungsten GR XD40 TAC, Trijicon Night Sights XD40 SC, TFO's SA TRP Kimber TLE/RL II "No other success in life, can compensate for failure in the home."

12-17-2006, 09:52 PM	#4
Don XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pullman, WA Posts: 4,241	I did not feel much difference with my 9mm Service models, but with the Tactical it is noticable weight. Playing with the math, a tungsten core it in the stock rod could add about 2.8 oz. I have not actually tried these in my .45ACP Tactical, but I would think it would tame the muzzle quite a bit. __________________ Don geek with guns Why don\'t you all f-f-f-fade away.... FAQ - Don\'s Guide Rod

12-17-2006, 10:00 PM	#5
Neomet XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Made it to Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,402	Just got my tungsten rod for my .45 ACP Tac. Two words: Get one. Noticeably reduced muzzle flip. The gun does feel more nose heavy but I actually kinda like it. If it weren't my carry gun I would send the trigger back out to have it knocked down to 2 lbs and use it as an L10 gun. Hell, I may just shoot it in production and scare all those folks used to the sound of 9mms with bunnyfart loads in them with the sound of the .45 going off. I'm not really competetive anyways so what the heck! __________________ Who said that? Who the freak said that? Who's the slimy little communist $hit, twinkle-toed rocksucker down here who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody, huh? The fairy freaking godmother said it. Out-freaking-standing. I will PT you all until you freaking die!

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