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GW45NUT · 12-15-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fivefold

Don't forget the silver bullets....maybe that''s just for werewolves?

That's what them Silver Tips are for, gosh darn it!

LOL!

IamtheNRA · 12-15-2006, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fivefold

Don't forget the silver bullets....maybe that''s just for werewolves?

Ever seen "Underworld"? I like the anti-vampire rounds with the UV-emitting dye...liquid sunshine!

Zeke Menuar · 12-16-2006, 11:10 AM

OK

I tried it.

I have about 100 rounds left from my late unlamented 45 Super 1911 phase.
http://www.realguns.com/archives/020.htm

The load is a Laser Cast 225gr TC bullet and lots of Power Pistol. I have two loads. 1100fps and 1050fps.

I had a tough time getting this to function in a Colt 1991A1. Never got the right recoil spring in. It was too much spring or not enough. When I got the right spring, it needed really stiff mag springs. When it did work, muzzle blast and recoil was too much for a handgun recoil weenie like me. I ended up using the cases and downloading to 1000fps. That combo works fine.

I tried a few of the weaker 45 Super loads I still have in a XD45 Service. Runs about five rounds then jams. Stovepipes and FTFs abound. It is accurate enough but not really suited to the 4" XD45.

I think that with the right recoil spring I could make a go of it with a XD45 Tactical. I have a Dons prototype GR that takes 1911 springs. I think a 26 or 28lb spring would work OK. At least well enough to use up the remaining 45 Super ammo I still have on hand.

FWIW. THe 45 Super is a best a curiosity. If you want that kind of power level, go to a Roland or better yet a Magnumb revolver. It's not practical in a 1911 platform or the XD platform for that matter.

I do plan to use the remaining 45 Super cases I have on hand (about 450) to make a +P loading using the 225gr hard cast bullet and Power Pistol to get to 950-1000 fps. This would be for hiking and general outdoor use.

This is my opinion. Your opinion may vary.

ZM

Mercmar · 12-16-2006, 12:39 PM

Zeke's statement that the .45 Super is at best just a curiosity is, in my opinion, a splendid analysis of this round.

If you want to hunt with a semi-auto, Get the .460 Rowland or 10mm.

AKM · 12-16-2006, 02:37 PM

The Super is indeed a curiousity. It is overpowered for defense and underpowered for hunting. I wouldn't even have experimented with it if not for the fact that it shoots in handguns I already own with little modification, and loads on the same dies and identical setup for ACP.

I found the Super with 230gr plated and jacketed bullets to be reliable in my tactical with the stock spring, with the 50 or so rounds I fired, although it was tossing brass pretty hard.
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Zeke Menuar · 12-16-2006, 09:43 PM

I neglected to add I tried a Sprinco Recoil reducer in the 1991A1 with mixed results. The gun functioned OK. The felt recoil was really bad. Way too much slide velocity.

950-1000 FPS is about the comfortable limit.

Made a nasty pin shooting load. Connect and you'll blow the pin into next week.

ZM

AKM · 12-17-2006, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke Menuar

I neglected to add I tried a Sprinco Recoil reducer in the 1991A1 with mixed results. The gun functioned OK. The felt recoil was really bad. Way too much slide velocity.

950-1000 FPS is about the comfortable limit.

Made a nasty pin shooting load. Connect and you'll blow the pin into next week.

ZM

Pins go off the table well enough with a solid hit from a regular 230gr hardball.
.

Zeke Menuar · 12-17-2006, 04:27 PM

Yeah, I know.

This was a bit more spectacular.

ZM

12-16-2006, 02:37 PM	#15
AKM XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,511	The Super is indeed a curiousity. It is overpowered for defense and underpowered for hunting. I wouldn't even have experimented with it if not for the fact that it shoots in handguns I already own with little modification, and loads on the same dies and identical setup for ACP. I found the Super with 230gr plated and jacketed bullets to be reliable in my tactical with the stock spring, with the 50 or so rounds I fired, although it was tossing brass pretty hard. . __________________ Liviu Librescu - În veci pomenirea lui. U.S. Army/Marine Snipers - Making the World a Better Place, 175 grains at a time.

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12-16-2006, 11:10 AM	#13
Zeke Menuar XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Monsoon Central Posts: 272	OK I tried it. I have about 100 rounds left from my late unlamented 45 Super 1911 phase. http://www.realguns.com/archives/020.htm The load is a Laser Cast 225gr TC bullet and lots of Power Pistol. I have two loads. 1100fps and 1050fps. I had a tough time getting this to function in a Colt 1991A1. Never got the right recoil spring in. It was too much spring or not enough. When I got the right spring, it needed really stiff mag springs. When it did work, muzzle blast and recoil was too much for a handgun recoil weenie like me. I ended up using the cases and downloading to 1000fps. That combo works fine. I tried a few of the weaker 45 Super loads I still have in a XD45 Service. Runs about five rounds then jams. Stovepipes and FTFs abound. It is accurate enough but not really suited to the 4" XD45. I think that with the right recoil spring I could make a go of it with a XD45 Tactical. I have a Dons prototype GR that takes 1911 springs. I think a 26 or 28lb spring would work OK. At least well enough to use up the remaining 45 Super ammo I still have on hand. FWIW. THe 45 Super is a best a curiosity. If you want that kind of power level, go to a Roland or better yet a Magnumb revolver. It's not practical in a 1911 platform or the XD platform for that matter. I do plan to use the remaining 45 Super cases I have on hand (about 450) to make a +P loading using the 225gr hard cast bullet and Power Pistol to get to 950-1000 fps. This would be for hiking and general outdoor use. This is my opinion. Your opinion may vary. ZM

12-16-2006, 12:39 PM	#14
Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,736	Zeke's statement that the .45 Super is at best just a curiosity is, in my opinion, a splendid analysis of this round. If you want to hunt with a semi-auto, Get the .460 Rowland or 10mm.

12-16-2006, 09:43 PM	#16
Zeke Menuar XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Monsoon Central Posts: 272	I neglected to add I tried a Sprinco Recoil reducer in the 1991A1 with mixed results. The gun functioned OK. The felt recoil was really bad. Way too much slide velocity. 950-1000 FPS is about the comfortable limit. Made a nasty pin shooting load. Connect and you'll blow the pin into next week. ZM

12-17-2006, 04:27 PM	#18
Zeke Menuar XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon Monsoon Central Posts: 272	Yeah, I know. This was a bit more spectacular. ZM