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Slinkwc2k · 05-30-2006, 08:13 AM

Hello all,

1st post. Had my XD .45 for about 8 weeks, beginner shooter / first time gun owner. I've recently had trouble with feeding certain ammo. Forgive my incorrect use of verbage, as I'm still learning the proper terminology for gun parts. My XD was jamming at a shooting competiton of all places last week. The slide would either stay back and not reload when there was more ammo in the mag, or the gun would appear ready to fire but both indicators that tell you if a round is chambered showed that the gun was not loaded. In the first case when the slide stayed back with more ammo in the mag, I looked in the chamber and saw that the round's nose was pitched somewhat down, still in the mag. This was about the 6th or 7th round in the mag. Sometimes the round doesn't make it into the barrel either, with the bullet nose pitched up, and the headstamp end down. In the case where the gun does not cycle back, a re-rack chambers the round. This usually happens halfway through the mag, or after the first 4 or 5 shots.

Someone suggested that the jackets could not be slightly crimped around the bullet, and that bit of metal was catching causing the jamming. Others said it could be the magazine spring / opening. Any ideas? I've put about 1000 round thorugh this fun gun and have had no problems with Blazer Brass, Winchester WinClean, Wolf, or "crimped" reloads from a friend. Lots of problems with Federal American Eagle and Independence. I've cleaned the snot out of this gun, using copper-based cleaning foam and break-free lube, and it still misfeeds. I can't go 100 rounds without a misfeed...is that unrealistic???

Any ideas on what I can try to fix this problem? Nothing worse than going through a timed course and you waste 15 seconds fooling with a gun that should be working properly.

nitesite · 05-30-2006, 08:31 AM

90+ percent of misfeeds are caused by magazine problems.

Are you experiencing your failures from both of your magazines or just one?

Slinkwc2k · 05-30-2006, 08:43 AM

What I'm about to say will show my true "amateur-ism" with handguns: I bought 2 additional magazines and forgot to number or mark them. Realizing this, I'm going to number them today and then head to the range for some testing. I have 500+ rounds, so hopefully I can make some conclusions. I'll inspect the mags with each other too, look for differences between them...

happygunner · 05-30-2006, 12:16 PM

If it shoots Win. White Box 230gr FMJ and the Blazer 230gr FMJ without problems. And other brands don't work then I feel it's a Ammo. Quality problem.

dale914 · 12-11-2007, 08:30 PM

I just filled a magazine with different brands, among Remington JHP, Winn White Box, and Federal Hydrashock. The second hydrashock that went through jammed as described before, the bullet was pitched down a bit. I had no problems through the rest of the day with the Remmingtons or Winnchesters, does anyone have any problems with hydrashocks???

Tard · 12-11-2007, 10:34 PM

My XDSc 9mm, XD.40 Service and XD .45ACP Tactical all feed hydrashocks 100%.

The .40 and .45 have NEVER had a malfunction in 2-3K rounds.
The SC has had 3 malfunctions: 2 were the fired shell was halfway extracted and the extractor slipped off the shell. One was a bad round, the case SPLIT and jammed.

As you said, number your magazines and track against that.

Let us know what you find, also, it's possible you have a finicky gun in which case Springfield WILL fix it for you.

XD9Sub · 12-12-2007, 04:52 AM

I don't even try to use Hydrashocks any more, I've had too many feeding problems with that round in different calibers (.40 and .45). It depends on the gun to some extent, and if yours shoot them, that's great! It just seemed that the mouth of the hollow point was too wide for the guns I used (including, CZ .40, SA 1911, and DW 1911).

dale914 · 12-14-2007, 08:21 PM

SO I just got back from shooting today... bad news... The gun jammed hollow point Remmingtons and FMJ White box Winchesters.... So, it was jamming everything, on both of the factory magazines that came with the gun.... I'm not exactly new to guns, but new to auto handguns.... I always had revolvers so they wouldnt jam... This is very frusterating because I would like to trust my gun with my life, but I cannot trust the gun to fire the ammo everytime. I dont think I'm limp wristing... I usually shoot .357 magnum and I use a decent weaver stance... Is there some tactic I need to change? I do keep the gun clean. I hear that this gun cannot jam, people will limp wrist it, not clean it, strip the oil from it, fire anything from it and it just wont jam, but mine does with about every kind of bullet. I did buy the gun used, allegedly the owner sold it because he was schedualed to be stationed in South Korea.... wonder if it's because it was a jammer? thanks guys OH, and the gun in question is an xd45acp
Dale
PS. I also dont know how to start a new thread and cannot seem to figure it out, how can I? thanks

briang2ad · 12-15-2007, 06:36 AM

You may have WEAK mag springs. The barrel and lock block are well ramped, and the feed angle (at least on my gun) is very good. The design allows the round to feed in almost "in-line" with the chamber. A weak mag spring can let the round nose down and doesn't feed it fast enough. The recoil spring on these is quite strong, and probably lets the slide forward faster than your average 1911. I also don't think the springs on the mags are very strong to begin with, so if you get a weak one, it is naturally going to give you problems. Call Springfield. I have a OLD 1911 Milspec that they fixed for free After many years) and it was a good experience.

Sometimes if you get a good price, buying used isn't bad. SOme folks dump guns as soon as they don't work - which is very dumb if its a Springfield, because they have very good CS.

Judge · 12-15-2007, 08:40 AM

If it's not a certain mag, then send it back to CS at Springfield. Tell them you're problem.

Mine eats everything but wadcutters - the lip on the wadcutters catches on the feed ramp... but RN, HP are no problem...

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Originally Posted by dale914

SO I just got back from shooting today... bad news... The gun jammed hollow point Remmingtons and FMJ White box Winchesters.... So, it was jamming everything, on both of the factory magazines that came with the gun.... I'm not exactly new to guns, but new to auto handguns.... I always had revolvers so they wouldnt jam... This is very frusterating because I would like to trust my gun with my life, but I cannot trust the gun to fire the ammo everytime. I dont think I'm limp wristing... I usually shoot .357 magnum and I use a decent weaver stance... Is there some tactic I need to change? I do keep the gun clean. I hear that this gun cannot jam, people will limp wrist it, not clean it, strip the oil from it, fire anything from it and it just wont jam, but mine does with about every kind of bullet. I did buy the gun used, allegedly the owner sold it because he was schedualed to be stationed in South Korea.... wonder if it's because it was a jammer? thanks guys OH, and the gun in question is an xd45acp
Dale
PS. I also dont know how to start a new thread and cannot seem to figure it out, how can I? thanks

05-30-2006, 08:13 AM	#1
Slinkwc2k XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	Feeding problems on new XD 45 ACP Hello all, 1st post. Had my XD .45 for about 8 weeks, beginner shooter / first time gun owner. I've recently had trouble with feeding certain ammo. Forgive my incorrect use of verbage, as I'm still learning the proper terminology for gun parts. My XD was jamming at a shooting competiton of all places last week. The slide would either stay back and not reload when there was more ammo in the mag, or the gun would appear ready to fire but both indicators that tell you if a round is chambered showed that the gun was not loaded. In the first case when the slide stayed back with more ammo in the mag, I looked in the chamber and saw that the round's nose was pitched somewhat down, still in the mag. This was about the 6th or 7th round in the mag. Sometimes the round doesn't make it into the barrel either, with the bullet nose pitched up, and the headstamp end down. In the case where the gun does not cycle back, a re-rack chambers the round. This usually happens halfway through the mag, or after the first 4 or 5 shots. Someone suggested that the jackets could not be slightly crimped around the bullet, and that bit of metal was catching causing the jamming. Others said it could be the magazine spring / opening. Any ideas? I've put about 1000 round thorugh this fun gun and have had no problems with Blazer Brass, Winchester WinClean, Wolf, or "crimped" reloads from a friend. Lots of problems with Federal American Eagle and Independence. I've cleaned the snot out of this gun, using copper-based cleaning foam and break-free lube, and it still misfeeds. I can't go 100 rounds without a misfeed...is that unrealistic??? Any ideas on what I can try to fix this problem? Nothing worse than going through a timed course and you waste 15 seconds fooling with a gun that should be working properly.

05-30-2006, 08:31 AM	#2
nitesite XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Morgan County, AL Posts: 29	90+ percent of misfeeds are caused by magazine problems. Are you experiencing your failures from both of your magazines or just one? __________________ Deputy Sheriff 1982-1985 Regular Army 1985-1993 E7 1911s XD-45 GLOCK 29 and 34 S&W J, L and N frames

05-30-2006, 12:16 PM	#4
happygunner XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,139	Quality Ammo. If it shoots Win. White Box 230gr FMJ and the Blazer 230gr FMJ without problems. And other brands don't work then I feel it's a Ammo. Quality problem.

12-11-2007, 08:30 PM	#5
dale914 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northwest Posts: 5	I just filled a magazine with different brands, among Remington JHP, Winn White Box, and Federal Hydrashock. The second hydrashock that went through jammed as described before, the bullet was pitched down a bit. I had no problems through the rest of the day with the Remmingtons or Winnchesters, does anyone have any problems with hydrashocks??? __________________ A gun is not a weapon, Marge, it's a tool. Like a butcher's knife or a harpoon, or... or an alligator.

12-11-2007, 10:34 PM	#6
Tard XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Machias, WA Posts: 3,015	My XDSc 9mm, XD.40 Service and XD .45ACP Tactical all feed hydrashocks 100%. The .40 and .45 have NEVER had a malfunction in 2-3K rounds. The SC has had 3 malfunctions: 2 were the fired shell was halfway extracted and the extractor slipped off the shell. One was a bad round, the case SPLIT and jammed. As you said, number your magazines and track against that. Let us know what you find, also, it's possible you have a finicky gun in which case Springfield WILL fix it for you. __________________ The good times have been used up.

05-30-2006, 08:43 AM	#3
Slinkwc2k XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	What I'm about to say will show my true "amateur-ism" with handguns: I bought 2 additional magazines and forgot to number or mark them. Realizing this, I'm going to number them today and then head to the range for some testing. I have 500+ rounds, so hopefully I can make some conclusions. I'll inspect the mags with each other too, look for differences between them...

12-12-2007, 04:52 AM	#7
XD9Sub XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norcross, GA Posts: 999	I don't even try to use Hydrashocks any more, I've had too many feeding problems with that round in different calibers (.40 and .45). It depends on the gun to some extent, and if yours shoot them, that's great! It just seemed that the mouth of the hollow point was too wide for the guns I used (including, CZ .40, SA 1911, and DW 1911). __________________ "We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we may always be free" Ronald Reagan, June 6th, 1984, Normandy France Øbama '08

12-14-2007, 08:21 PM	#8
dale914 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northwest Posts: 5	SO I just got back from shooting today... bad news... The gun jammed hollow point Remmingtons and FMJ White box Winchesters.... So, it was jamming everything, on both of the factory magazines that came with the gun.... I'm not exactly new to guns, but new to auto handguns.... I always had revolvers so they wouldnt jam... This is very frusterating because I would like to trust my gun with my life, but I cannot trust the gun to fire the ammo everytime. I dont think I'm limp wristing... I usually shoot .357 magnum and I use a decent weaver stance... Is there some tactic I need to change? I do keep the gun clean. I hear that this gun cannot jam, people will limp wrist it, not clean it, strip the oil from it, fire anything from it and it just wont jam, but mine does with about every kind of bullet. I did buy the gun used, allegedly the owner sold it because he was schedualed to be stationed in South Korea.... wonder if it's because it was a jammer? thanks guys OH, and the gun in question is an xd45acp Dale PS. I also dont know how to start a new thread and cannot seem to figure it out, how can I? thanks __________________ A gun is not a weapon, Marge, it's a tool. Like a butcher's knife or a harpoon, or... or an alligator.

12-15-2007, 06:36 AM	#9
briang2ad XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 236	AN educated guess You may have WEAK mag springs. The barrel and lock block are well ramped, and the feed angle (at least on my gun) is very good. The design allows the round to feed in almost "in-line" with the chamber. A weak mag spring can let the round nose down and doesn't feed it fast enough. The recoil spring on these is quite strong, and probably lets the slide forward faster than your average 1911. I also don't think the springs on the mags are very strong to begin with, so if you get a weak one, it is naturally going to give you problems. Call Springfield. I have a OLD 1911 Milspec that they fixed for free After many years) and it was a good experience. Sometimes if you get a good price, buying used isn't bad. SOme folks dump guns as soon as they don't work - which is very dumb if its a Springfield, because they have very good CS.

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