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ps3 · 04-06-2006, 07:46 PM

aloha to all...

You can only research so much without the owners input, past experiances, or shooting the actual weapon itself.. but here it goes.. Shot a XD .40 while back and loved it..Felt good to get my hands off that damn beretta M9. anyway.. I am trying to decide between the XD .40 OR .45 and the HK USP Compact. Been reading alot of threads here and I hear only good things.. well crap its a SA owners site so I expected that. Price isnt really a option just reliabilty and comfort. Ammo price is tho.. never shot a HK and was wondering if anyone can give me some advice b4 my purchase..This will be my first "compact" pistol purchase. I plan to shoot alot and that where the .40 or .45 questions comes into play.. thanks for any and all input!!!

XDfan · 04-07-2006, 06:48 AM

I have an XD45 and a USPc .40. I like both of them...for work I carry the XD45, but I will sometimes carry the USPc, mostly because I'm not real fond of the holster I have for the XD (Galxo Matrix). I'm not a fan of "slide" type holsters, I prefer my holster to cover the gun. High Noon has one similar to the Matrix, but it covers the whole gun, so when I can afford it, I'll be ordering that, then the XD will be my all the time gun.

johnnyphaze · 04-07-2006, 10:17 AM

not to knock on xd's

i have a xd 9 and an xd .45acp and a hk usp 9mm

my buddy has an xd .40 (ported version) and he also has the .45 acp

his .40's trigger broke and my .45 had feeding problems.

hk usp.....no problems at all to date.

both the xd and usp are great guns to have.

just giving you my feedback since i have both types of pistols.

Unbeliever · 04-07-2006, 11:02 AM

I have an HK USP 9mm that has never failed to feed anything so far. I've put about 1000 rounds of reloads, WWB, CCI Blazer, Gold Dot, and Winchester SXT through it. I never thought that a gun could perform like that. I had endless trouble with my XD 40 Tactical for a long time. It performs well now, hasn't misfed in ages, but it made my shooting life a hell a few years ago. All of my semi-automatic guns had problems until the HK. I still like, and shoot the hell out of, my XD, but the HK has really been a pleasant surprise.

jb

O.C. 4 U · 04-07-2006, 11:54 AM

I don't own any XD's yet, but I have a USP compact 45 that hasn't given me a bit of problems. Only 8+1 though.

Deacon Dave · 04-07-2006, 12:45 PM

I have a H&K USP in 40 S&W, and two XD's in 9mm (Service and Tactical). All three pistols have had thousands of rounds through them without a single failure. Ergonomically both models fit well in my hands, and I can shoot well with both of them.
I would say there are basically two key differences between the H&K and the SA XD: #1 - The H&K has the option of a traditional external switch type safety while the XD uses a grip safety. #2 - Price, I can get almost 2 XD's for about the cost of 1 H&K.
I would feel well armed with either brand. However, now that I understand how to use the grip safety of the XD (e.g. you can disengage it to safely holster) I now prefer it over the manual switch safety of the H&K. As I heard a policeman state - "If I have to draw a handgun on someone, I don't want to have to be flipping no switches to make it work!)
The second reason of the XD's lower cost helps make my wallet (and my wife) happier! More money for ammo and training!

Hope that helps in your decision process.

shipwreck · 04-07-2006, 04:08 PM

I like my HK USP full size a lot - I plan to get a USP compact too, as soona s I come up w/ another $150. I like the cocked and locked ability of the gun

merkin.muffley · 04-07-2006, 06:48 PM

I've carried a H&K compact 45 for about 6 years. It's one of two 45's that I own that are 100% reliable (the other is a Les Baer). The ergonomics on it (for my hands) is perfect.

rbyrd · 04-07-2006, 09:55 PM

I am new to guns and only purchased one do to a situation at my home.

I am one of the types of guys who recognizes name and feel most of the time you get what you pay for so I was bent on a HK because of the Special Ops advertisement and all, and price is not an issue. On the other hand I am an engineer and we are funny about research so I dug around a little and went and rented a few guns to see what I liked.

Even though I have good sized hands I did not like the feel of the HK at all and of the Glock, HK, the XD even though it was least expensive felt the best and I shot the best with it.

In this case, the XD to me is better than a gun you can pay 5 times the price for comparing it to the HK Mark23.

04-07-2006, 11:02 AM	#4
Unbeliever XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tel Aviv, Israel Posts: 82	I have an HK USP 9mm that has never failed to feed anything so far. I've put about 1000 rounds of reloads, WWB, CCI Blazer, Gold Dot, and Winchester SXT through it. I never thought that a gun could perform like that. I had endless trouble with my XD 40 Tactical for a long time. It performs well now, hasn't misfed in ages, but it made my shooting life a hell a few years ago. All of my semi-automatic guns had problems until the HK. I still like, and shoot the hell out of, my XD, but the HK has really been a pleasant surprise. jb __________________ I went drifting through the capitals of tin Where men can't walk or freely talk And sons turn their fathers in..

04-07-2006, 11:54 AM	#5
O.C. 4 U XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: BFE, pa Posts: 1,782	I don't own any XD's yet, but I have a USP compact 45 that hasn't given me a bit of problems. Only 8+1 though. __________________ Few had nightmares from their duties, and none would ever fall victim to delayed-stress syndrome, because they deemed themselves to be predators, not prey, and lions know no such feelings.--Tom Clancy

04-07-2006, 12:45 PM	#6
Deacon Dave XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Athens, Alabama Posts: 130	H&K versus XD I have a H&K USP in 40 S&W, and two XD's in 9mm (Service and Tactical). All three pistols have had thousands of rounds through them without a single failure. Ergonomically both models fit well in my hands, and I can shoot well with both of them. I would say there are basically two key differences between the H&K and the SA XD: #1 - The H&K has the option of a traditional external switch type safety while the XD uses a grip safety. #2 - Price, I can get almost 2 XD's for about the cost of 1 H&K. I would feel well armed with either brand. However, now that I understand how to use the grip safety of the XD (e.g. you can disengage it to safely holster) I now prefer it over the manual switch safety of the H&K. As I heard a policeman state - "If I have to draw a handgun on someone, I don't want to have to be flipping no switches to make it work!) The second reason of the XD's lower cost helps make my wallet (and my wife) happier! More money for ammo and training! Hope that helps in your decision process.

04-07-2006, 04:08 PM	#7
shipwreck XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,307	I like my HK USP full size a lot - I plan to get a USP compact too, as soona s I come up w/ another $150. I like the cocked and locked ability of the gun __________________ - Visit: http://www.fnforum.net The ULTIMATE FN site!

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04-06-2006, 07:46 PM	#1
ps3 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern California Posts: 2	Decisions Decisions...XD or HK.any HK shooters out there? aloha to all... You can only research so much without the owners input, past experiances, or shooting the actual weapon itself.. but here it goes.. Shot a XD .40 while back and loved it..Felt good to get my hands off that damn beretta M9. anyway.. I am trying to decide between the XD .40 OR .45 and the HK USP Compact. Been reading alot of threads here and I hear only good things.. well crap its a SA owners site so I expected that. Price isnt really a option just reliabilty and comfort. Ammo price is tho.. never shot a HK and was wondering if anyone can give me some advice b4 my purchase..This will be my first "compact" pistol purchase. I plan to shoot alot and that where the .40 or .45 questions comes into play.. thanks for any and all input!!!

04-07-2006, 06:48 AM	#2
XDfan XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 91	I have an XD45 and a USPc .40. I like both of them...for work I carry the XD45, but I will sometimes carry the USPc, mostly because I'm not real fond of the holster I have for the XD (Galxo Matrix). I'm not a fan of "slide" type holsters, I prefer my holster to cover the gun. High Noon has one similar to the Matrix, but it covers the whole gun, so when I can afford it, I'll be ordering that, then the XD will be my all the time gun. __________________ Gary "Guns don't make you a killer. Killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game." -Unknown

04-07-2006, 10:17 AM	#3
johnnyphaze XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 29	not to knock on xd's i have a xd 9 and an xd .45acp and a hk usp 9mm my buddy has an xd .40 (ported version) and he also has the .45 acp his .40's trigger broke and my .45 had feeding problems. hk usp.....no problems at all to date. both the xd and usp are great guns to have. just giving you my feedback since i have both types of pistols.

04-07-2006, 06:48 PM	#8
merkin.muffley XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 110	I've carried a H&K compact 45 for about 6 years. It's one of two 45's that I own that are 100% reliable (the other is a Les Baer). The ergonomics on it (for my hands) is perfect.

04-07-2006, 09:55 PM	#9
rbyrd XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 77	I am new to guns and only purchased one do to a situation at my home. I am one of the types of guys who recognizes name and feel most of the time you get what you pay for so I was bent on a HK because of the Special Ops advertisement and all, and price is not an issue. On the other hand I am an engineer and we are funny about research so I dug around a little and went and rented a few guns to see what I liked. Even though I have good sized hands I did not like the feel of the HK at all and of the Glock, HK, the XD even though it was least expensive felt the best and I shot the best with it. In this case, the XD to me is better than a gun you can pay 5 times the price for comparing it to the HK Mark23.