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Jcobb · 02-21-2006, 05:35 PM

Great informative board you have here. Ive been lurking a few weeks now gaining info and am about ready to purchase another 45. If I may, I would like some input please......

My preferred method of carry is IWB. I have a very comfortable rig for it. For duty, I carry an H&K USP .40 full size. OFF Duty I much prefer the 5 inch 1911. For simplicity sake, I am thinking of switching to the XD since it is DAO and therefore a similar platform to my primary duty carry. The higher mag capacity is also appealing. I have been toying with the idea of an XD 45 Tac. The weapon will be set up for combat only. I have no need to punch bullseyes, but if that is a by product so be it. Again, I am used to carrying a 5 inch 1911 IWB and have no problems at all with concealment or comfort.

I guess I am really seeking input from fellow 1911 shooters who have switched to the XD platform, and their preference over the 4 inch duty, the 5 inch Tac, or something like a 5 inch Kimber Tactical. Money in this case is not an issue.

Thanks in advance.....

rotnguns · 02-21-2006, 07:17 PM

Jcobb, I've always preferred full-sized autos such as the 1911, 92FS, and 220 ST. I find that I prefer the XD's in tactical largely because of the longer barrel and slide. I've got three tacs (45 gap, 45 acp, and 9 mm) and I shoot them all better than the xd-9 service, which I carry IWB. Those used to smaller 1911's might feel otherwise. I might add that the 45 acp and the xd platform seem to go together very well - they were made for each other!

Good shooting, whatever you choose!

Jcobb · 02-21-2006, 07:45 PM

Thanks for the response. Do you consider the XD 45 Tac too bulky for IWB?

**XD9Sub** · 02-21-2006, 08:06 PM

Just thought I'd add my 2cents. I have the XD45ACP service, it replaced my SA Lwt Champion 1911. I can shoot the XD almost as well as the 1911 up to 15yds. I have the XD9 Tac as well, and it's just not comfortable for me to carry, due to the extra slide length (IWB, 3:30 position). I don't really see the benefit for carrying the Tac, as I can shoot the service almost as well at close-in personal defense distances (less than 10yds). So I'd choose the service XD45ACP, but that's just me!

rotnguns · 02-21-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcobb

Thanks for the response. Do you consider the XD 45 Tac too bulky for IWB?

I don't have any experience carrying anything concealed except my XD-9 service IWB, but I definitely know it's there! I'm kind of lean though (6 1" , 158 lb). I'm using an econo holster (Uncle Mikes), so that probably detracts further from the comfort issue. My guess is that if you have no issues carrying a full sized 1911, you probably won't have much trouble with the xd-45 tac, which appears dimensionally similar and is substantially lighter to boot . There are some threads in the general HD discussion concerning ccw of the tac 9's and 40's, so these may be of interest. As an aside, the grip on the 45 acp is a bit larger than the other tacs, but I could not detect the difference while shooting.

Good shooting!

Rotnguns

.45shooter · 02-22-2006, 08:33 AM

I have been carrying my XD45 Service most of the time lately instead of the full-size 1911 that I used to carry. The XD is certainly thicker than the 1911, but the extra inch of barrel on the 1911 makes it a little less comfortable to carry IWB when I sit down. The XD Service seems to be just as accurate as my full size 1911, either of them are more than accurate enough for defensive purposes. Having the 14 rounds with the XD is also nice, even if I wouldn't likely need that many rounds, better safe than sorry. I also have a Kel-Tec .380 in my pocket at all times as a BUG or as a primary when I can't conceal the bigger pistols well enough.

Jcobb · 02-22-2006, 12:32 PM

Thank you all for the responses. .45shooter, that is exactly what I was looking for. I am also going to purchase a keltec as a BUG. Still trying to decide whether or not I want the .380 or the 9mm though.

Bird_Dog0347 · 02-22-2006, 02:06 PM

FYI, the XD is NOT DAO. It is in fact a single action striker fired pistol. When you rack the slide, the striker is completely cocked, making it a SAO.

Jcobb · 02-22-2006, 04:01 PM

Well, thanks for clearing that up. Poor choice of terminology on my part. What I SHOULD have said was that I wanted to stick with the same platform of NOT having a manual thumb safety. Again, I apologize for the poor terminology on my part.

.45shooter · 02-22-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcobb

Thank you all for the responses. .45shooter, that is exactly what I was looking for. I am also going to purchase a keltec as a BUG. Still trying to decide whether or not I want the .380 or the 9mm though.

I was also having a hard time deciding between the .380 or the 9mm Kel-Tec. After seeing and holding both of these pistols the decision was easy. While the 9mm (P11) was small, it was still considerably larger than the .380 (P3AT). I wanted something that could be concealed easily no matter what I was wearing, and the P3AT is just that. I don't feel any weight in my pocket and I often forget that the pistol is even on me.

02-21-2006, 05:35 PM	#1
Jcobb XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 145	Duty, Tac, or 1911? Great informative board you have here. Ive been lurking a few weeks now gaining info and am about ready to purchase another 45. If I may, I would like some input please...... My preferred method of carry is IWB. I have a very comfortable rig for it. For duty, I carry an H&K USP .40 full size. OFF Duty I much prefer the 5 inch 1911. For simplicity sake, I am thinking of switching to the XD since it is DAO and therefore a similar platform to my primary duty carry. The higher mag capacity is also appealing. I have been toying with the idea of an XD 45 Tac. The weapon will be set up for combat only. I have no need to punch bullseyes, but if that is a by product so be it. Again, I am used to carrying a 5 inch 1911 IWB and have no problems at all with concealment or comfort. I guess I am really seeking input from fellow 1911 shooters who have switched to the XD platform, and their preference over the 4 inch duty, the 5 inch Tac, or something like a 5 inch Kimber Tactical. Money in this case is not an issue. Thanks in advance.....

02-21-2006, 08:06 PM	#4
XD9Sub XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norcross, GA Posts: 1,013	Just thought I'd add my 2cents. I have the XD45ACP service, it replaced my SA Lwt Champion 1911. I can shoot the XD almost as well as the 1911 up to 15yds. I have the XD9 Tac as well, and it's just not comfortable for me to carry, due to the extra slide length (IWB, 3:30 position). I don't really see the benefit for carrying the Tac, as I can shoot the service almost as well at close-in personal defense distances (less than 10yds). So I'd choose the service XD45ACP, but that's just me! __________________ "We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared, so we may always be free" Ronald Reagan, June 6th, 1984, Normandy France

02-22-2006, 08:33 AM	#6
.45shooter XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 133	I have been carrying my XD45 Service most of the time lately instead of the full-size 1911 that I used to carry. The XD is certainly thicker than the 1911, but the extra inch of barrel on the 1911 makes it a little less comfortable to carry IWB when I sit down. The XD Service seems to be just as accurate as my full size 1911, either of them are more than accurate enough for defensive purposes. Having the 14 rounds with the XD is also nice, even if I wouldn't likely need that many rounds, better safe than sorry. I also have a Kel-Tec .380 in my pocket at all times as a BUG or as a primary when I can't conceal the bigger pistols well enough. __________________ XD45 Service, Oly AR-15, Springfield XD45acp, RIA 1911, Kel-tec P3AT, Ruger MKIII Target, Mossberg 500 12ga., Marlin M60, American Arms DB 12ga.

02-22-2006, 02:06 PM	#8
Bird_Dog0347 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dallas Tx. Posts: 178	FYI, the XD is NOT DAO. It is in fact a single action striker fired pistol. When you rack the slide, the striker is completely cocked, making it a SAO. __________________ Those who will sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither! If you shoot a mime, do you have to use a silencer???

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02-21-2006, 07:17 PM	#2
rotnguns XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 70	Jcobb, I've always preferred full-sized autos such as the 1911, 92FS, and 220 ST. I find that I prefer the XD's in tactical largely because of the longer barrel and slide. I've got three tacs (45 gap, 45 acp, and 9 mm) and I shoot them all better than the xd-9 service, which I carry IWB. Those used to smaller 1911's might feel otherwise. I might add that the 45 acp and the xd platform seem to go together very well - they were made for each other! Good shooting, whatever you choose!

02-21-2006, 07:45 PM	#3
Jcobb XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 145	Thanks for the response. Do you consider the XD 45 Tac too bulky for IWB?

02-22-2006, 12:32 PM	#7
Jcobb XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 145	Thank you all for the responses. .45shooter, that is exactly what I was looking for. I am also going to purchase a keltec as a BUG. Still trying to decide whether or not I want the .380 or the 9mm though.

02-22-2006, 04:01 PM	#9
Jcobb XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 145	Well, thanks for clearing that up. Poor choice of terminology on my part. What I SHOULD have said was that I wanted to stick with the same platform of NOT having a manual thumb safety. Again, I apologize for the poor terminology on my part.