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rbyrd · 02-08-2006, 09:21 AM

Email below of correspondence

ON OR ABOUT 60 DAY'S
Thank You,
Frank Betro
EFK Marketing/FireDragon
Phone 480-831-3889
Fax 480-831-1630
http://www.efkfiredragon.com

----- Original Message -----
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To: 'efkfiredragon@cox.net'
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: .400 Corbon Conversion Barrel for the XD 45 ACP?

Hello,

Do you know when you will be selling the .400 Corbon Conversion Barrel for the XD 45 ACP?

Thank you,

SLCDave · 02-08-2006, 11:04 AM

Paging Frenchy....

**Old School** · 02-08-2006, 11:31 AM

I know that Frank nows has the XD-ACP and has been working on it. I know that he is also looking at a 10mm barrel for the XD-ACP.

qballwill · 02-08-2006, 11:37 AM

wow a 357 sig on steroids.....

rbyrd · 02-08-2006, 12:37 PM

I sent EFK info concerning a good machine shop that maybe able to help make a 10mm magazine, but I do not think you gain anything by the converting to 10mm if you can get similar ballistics from the .400 Corbon. I know there are some 10 mm lovers on this board and it originally appealed to me, but why when all that needs to be changed out is the barrel to go to the .400 Corbon.

Plus, the .400 Corbon will not be hard on the pistol since it is not a high compression round. I have been told it still feels like the 45 ACP, which I think is a major plus since shooting a 45 ACP feels better than anything I have ever shot.

For me I would like to have a .400 Corbon barrel that I just drop in when I go hiking and know it is going to work.

Arkansas · 02-08-2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbyrd

I sent EFK info concerning a good machine shop that maybe able to help make a 10mm magazine, but I do not think you gain anything by the converting to 10mm if you can get similar ballistics from the .400 Corbon. I know there are some 10 mm lovers on this board and it originally appealed to me, but why when all that needs to be changed out is the barrel to go to the .400 Corbon.

Plus, the .400 Corbon will not be hard on the pistol since it is not a high compression round. I have been told it still feels like the 45 ACP, which I think is a major plus since shooting a 45 ACP feels better than anything I have ever shot.

For me I would like to have a .400 Corbon barrel that I just drop in when I go hiking and know it is going to work.

The 400 corbon is not the same as a 10mm. It is still an awesome round with the lighter bullets. It was designed to perform the same as the 125 grain 10mm. I think the minimum weight for a 40 cal bullet for self defense should be 150gr.

It is like the 357sig to the 357mag. With a very, very light bullet they perform the same way, but when you get the practical/self defense rounds there is no comparison to the 357mag.

SLCDave · 02-08-2006, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbyrd

I sent EFK info concerning a good machine shop that maybe able to help make a 10mm magazine, but I do not think you gain anything by the converting to 10mm if you can get similar ballistics from the .400 Corbon. I know there are some 10 mm lovers on this board and it originally appealed to me, but why when all that needs to be changed out is the barrel to go to the .400 Corbon.

Plus, the .400 Corbon will not be hard on the pistol since it is not a high compression round. I have been told it still feels like the 45 ACP, which I think is a major plus since shooting a 45 ACP feels better than anything I have ever shot.

For me I would like to have a .400 Corbon barrel that I just drop in when I go hiking and know it is going to work.

I'm no guru on the .400 Corbon, but from what I understand, It's kind of like a .45GAP to .45ACP comparison when you put it up against the 10mm. You can take the .400 corbon and put it up against the low to medium powered 10mm rounds, but the top end, hi-velocity hard hitting 10mm rounds will still outshine the .400 by a decent margin. Plus, with the 10mm being a straight-walled cartridge, it is easier to reload.

I could be all wrong, but that's what I've heard.

Arkansas · 02-08-2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLCDave

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbyrd

I sent EFK info concerning a good machine shop that maybe able to help make a 10mm magazine, but I do not think you gain anything by the converting to 10mm if you can get similar ballistics from the .400 Corbon. I know there are some 10 mm lovers on this board and it originally appealed to me, but why when all that needs to be changed out is the barrel to go to the .400 Corbon.

Plus, the .400 Corbon will not be hard on the pistol since it is not a high compression round. I have been told it still feels like the 45 ACP, which I think is a major plus since shooting a 45 ACP feels better than anything I have ever shot.

For me I would like to have a .400 Corbon barrel that I just drop in when I go hiking and know it is going to work.

I'm no guru on the .400 Corbon, but from what I understand, It's kind of like a .45GAP to .45ACP comparison when you put it up against the 10mm. You can take the .400 corbon and put it up against the low to medium powered 10mm rounds, but the top end, hi-velocity hard hitting 10mm rounds will still outshine the .400 by a decent margin. Plus, with the 10mm being a straight-walled cartridge, it is easier to reload.

I could be all wrong, but that's what I've heard.

Agree.

What is the purpose of switching to a 400 corbon, which is equivalent to a weak 10mm, that is still weaker than a 45acp, more costly and harder to find. The 10mm only surpasses the 45 with heavier bullets.

I would LOVE to see a 10mm drop in barrel! Why couldn't you manipulate the feed lips on an acp mag to accomodate the 10mm round similar to the 9's and 40's. I know it'd be quite a bit, but it may be possible???? Thoughts?????

Also, I've heard from somebody (can't remember who/where) that the extractor on the acp should work for the 10mm.

rbyrd · 02-08-2006, 03:14 PM

From Corbon's site

HT10180BC/20 10MM AUTO 180 GR.BCSP 1320FPS/696FTLBS
HT10200PN/20 10MM AUTO 200GR. RNPN 1125FPS/640FTLBS
HT357180BC/20 357 MAG 180 GR.BCSP 1200FPS/640FTLBS
HT357200HC/20 357 MAG 200 GR. HC 1150FPS/587FTLBS
HT400CB170BC/20 400 CORBON 170 GR.BCSP 1330FPS/668FTLBS

The Corbon ballistics are right up there with the 10mm and this is pretty hot stuff and 170 GR bullet is no light weight. I do not know if the extra stress on the gun is worth that 28 ftlbs of energy. Plus, you are getting less recoil.

I just wonder if people are caught up in the mystic of the 10mm round. From the perspective of a Mechanical Engineer you are not giving up much by going with the .400 Corbon round over the 10mm and gain with better control. Just reminds me, when growing up my parents had and I still have today a 87 Buick Grand National and at the time it was the Darth Vader of cars. It had a mystic that it was actually faster than what it was. Do not get me wrong for the times it was a fast car, but when it got hot and in hot weather it was beatable by the new Vetts (Cold it would edge the Vettes out), but people stock for stock would not race it.

Arkansas · 02-08-2006, 04:23 PM

We can talk all day about how similar the 10mm and the 400 are. I am excited about the 400, but why not just make a 10mm drop in barrel? Would/Could it work? That's what I was trying to get at in my last post.

02-08-2006, 09:21 AM	#1
rbyrd XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 77	.400 Corbon Conversion Barrels by EFK Firedragon Email below of correspondence ON OR ABOUT 60 DAY'S Thank You, Frank Betro EFK Marketing/FireDragon Phone 480-831-3889 Fax 480-831-1630 http://www.efkfiredragon.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: 'efkfiredragon@cox.net' Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: .400 Corbon Conversion Barrel for the XD 45 ACP? Hello, Do you know when you will be selling the .400 Corbon Conversion Barrel for the XD 45 ACP? Thank you,

02-08-2006, 11:04 AM	#2
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02-08-2006, 11:31 AM	#3
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02-08-2006, 12:37 PM	#5
rbyrd XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 77	I sent EFK info concerning a good machine shop that maybe able to help make a 10mm magazine, but I do not think you gain anything by the converting to 10mm if you can get similar ballistics from the .400 Corbon. I know there are some 10 mm lovers on this board and it originally appealed to me, but why when all that needs to be changed out is the barrel to go to the .400 Corbon. Plus, the .400 Corbon will not be hard on the pistol since it is not a high compression round. I have been told it still feels like the 45 ACP, which I think is a major plus since shooting a 45 ACP feels better than anything I have ever shot. For me I would like to have a .400 Corbon barrel that I just drop in when I go hiking and know it is going to work.

02-08-2006, 03:14 PM	#9
rbyrd XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 77	From Corbon's site HT10180BC/20 10MM AUTO 180 GR.BCSP 1320FPS/696FTLBS HT10200PN/20 10MM AUTO 200GR. RNPN 1125FPS/640FTLBS HT357180BC/20 357 MAG 180 GR.BCSP 1200FPS/640FTLBS HT357200HC/20 357 MAG 200 GR. HC 1150FPS/587FTLBS HT400CB170BC/20 400 CORBON 170 GR.BCSP 1330FPS/668FTLBS The Corbon ballistics are right up there with the 10mm and this is pretty hot stuff and 170 GR bullet is no light weight. I do not know if the extra stress on the gun is worth that 28 ftlbs of energy. Plus, you are getting less recoil. I just wonder if people are caught up in the mystic of the 10mm round. From the perspective of a Mechanical Engineer you are not giving up much by going with the .400 Corbon round over the 10mm and gain with better control. Just reminds me, when growing up my parents had and I still have today a 87 Buick Grand National and at the time it was the Darth Vader of cars. It had a mystic that it was actually faster than what it was. Do not get me wrong for the times it was a fast car, but when it got hot and in hot weather it was beatable by the new Vetts (Cold it would edge the Vettes out), but people stock for stock would not race it.

02-08-2006, 04:23 PM	#10
Arkansas XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 133	We can talk all day about how similar the 10mm and the 400 are. I am excited about the 400, but why not just make a 10mm drop in barrel? Would/Could it work? That's what I was trying to get at in my last post.