Modern Warfare 2 Prestige Edition.

[laserrs]

Ha, you'll drop hundreds every 6 months to get the latest video card but won't spend 10 extra on a game? Psss, please.

[speedtrucker]

Originally Posted by laserrs

Ha, you'll drop hundreds every 6 months to get the latest video card but won't spend 10 extra on a game? Psss, please.

I used to be a PC FPS gamer and my consoles were solely for Sports titles.

I always liked having the keyboard+mouse combo, you could script more commands into simple button presses... you could have pretty much total control and fine tuned precision with the mouse.

but the reality is as the PC/MAC wars have really exploded over the last 5-7 years it has made gaming jump forward each year so danged quickly. which means that games like Armed Assualt was a beast on PCs, you basically had to future proof your PC to play the a game of 'today'. the only problem was a year later, your PC is still considered 'top-end' but it can't handle ArmA2 until you go dual video card, 4 GB of ram...

I still have a few PC games but now I've switched to almost all types of games on a console.

so yeah I'll pay 10$ extra for the console version cause I know that CoD4,5,6 and most likely 7 will all work flawlessly on it. while a PC'er will have to upgrade some part of thier PC within that time for well over 10$

[afmo]

Originally Posted by speedtrucker

I used to be a PC FPS gamer and my consoles were solely for Sports titles.

I always liked having the keyboard+mouse combo, you could script more commands into simple button presses... you could have pretty much total control and fine tuned precision with the mouse.

but the reality is as the PC/MAC wars have really exploded over the last 5-7 years it has made gaming jump forward each year so danged quickly. which means that games like Armed Assualt was a beast on PCs, you basically had to future proof your PC to play the a game of 'today'. the only problem was a year later, your PC is still considered 'top-end' but it can't handle ArmA2 until you go dual video card, 4 GB of ram...

I still have a few PC games but now I've switched to almost all types of games on a console.

so yeah I'll pay 10$ extra for the console version cause I know that CoD4,5,6 and most likely 7 will all work flawlessly on it. while a PC'er will have to upgrade some part of thier PC within that time for well over 10$

Ram and graphics card are the only real considerations you need, and most off the shelf computers have 2 gigs minimum for ram. I know some have 4 now. But an extra 2 gigs can be purchased for 30 bucks and will last you as an upgrade for a long time.

Also, graphics cards are getting very cheap. I put a nVidia 9800 GT in mine for about 100 bucks and it'll be good for years. You can get 1gb cards for in the 50 dollar range now. And you're not going to be upgrading every game.

[speedtrucker]

Originally Posted by afmo

Ram and graphics card are the only real considerations you need, and most off the shelf computers have 2 gigs minimum for ram. I know some have 4 now. But an extra 2 gigs can be purchased for 30 bucks and will last you as an upgrade for a long time.

Also, graphics cards are getting very cheap. I put a nVidia 9800 GT in mine for about 100 bucks and it'll be good for years. You can get 1gb cards for in the 50 dollar range now. And you're not going to be upgrading every game.

Dont get me wrong I like PC gaming.

its just with the Consoles making a pretty dang good effort it becomes easier and cheaper to play a game like CoD on a console.

even with what you listed above you have listed from 50-130$ worth of 'necessary' upgrades. compared to the 10$ upcharge on console games. in CoD for example. its 30$ extra to buy CoD4,5 & 6 when it comes out on the 360 rather than PC.

and also you have less chance of hacks on a console. yes there still are exploits but not as bad as a PC. my buddy is a member of a hack site for BF2 and CoD4, it is shocking to see some of the hacks and how intracate they are on the PC. and how the mastermind is pretty much running a business by outsmarting Punkbuster and the likes.

[Foskey]

Originally Posted by afmo

Ram and graphics card are the only real considerations you need, and most off the shelf computers have 2 gigs minimum for ram. I know some have 4 now. But an extra 2 gigs can be purchased for 30 bucks and will last you as an upgrade for a long time.

Also, graphics cards are getting very cheap. I put a nVidia 9800 GT in mine for about 100 bucks and it'll be good for years. You can get 1gb cards for in the 50 dollar range now. And you're not going to be upgrading every game.

Your half way there. For the casual gamer this is more then enough. But, if you play in competition, in the leagues and such. The best hardware provides you with an edge. That 9800 GT will be good for years. It's a solid card. I'm sure it will last longer then the PC. However, as time goes by and new games come out. You will have a less then desirable fps. Video lag is a major issue in FPS games and puts you at a considerable disadvantage. Also, if you are just playing on a 15 inch LCD that's great. But, it can't push my 24" LCD for instance, at a high resolution and get a decent frame rate with a card like that with a new release game.

There is a lot more to performance of a video card, then just how much ram it has. There's bit rates, graphics clocking, onboard processor clocking, texture fill rates, memory interface widths, memory bandwidths and so on and so forth.

And if you're pc is relatively new, and you just want to upgrade your video card or memory that all works well for a period of time. But, the CPU can bottleneck your video card quite severely. Everything works hand in hand.

Like you said ram is very important as well. 2GB is mediocre at best. Dependent on your OS of course. If you are running vista, you can expect a GB of that being used purely by the OS and the background processes. And that's before you even fire the game up.

But I digress...

When you play on a console, hardware wise, the competition is purely a skill driven win. With PC's there are many different things that can give your opponent the upper hand. Again, for the casual gamer it won't be that big of a deal. But, if you are competitive things can get expensive real quick...

Money wise, the console is the way to go. You will save a LOT over the years. I have been into competitive gaming for about 5 years now. And I have spent several thousand dollars staying up to date on hardware. But, I have played enough to make it cost effective on a dollar per hour ratio over that period of time.

Being recently married. I don't have the coins or the time to play to competitively anymore. I can't afford to get the latest gear that's out. But, I have a mediocre gaming rig that gets me by. An Intel core i7, nVidia GTX 260, and 6GB of ram. That I built at the end of last year. It doesn't run COD5 up to my expectations. It's no slouch by any means. But, after having all the top of the line gear for a few years. You notice every little bit of performance lag. I expect it to be marginal, at best, for COD:MW2.

And that my friends is why I am happy the wife and I picked up a PS3 recently. I will just buy the game for both systems and play whatever it preforms best on. Which will probably be the PS3. And if that's the case. I will always be looking over my shoulder at my two old friends: Keyboard and mouse.

[ForTehNguyen]

Originally Posted by speedtrucker

Dont get me wrong I like PC gaming.

its just with the Consoles making a pretty dang good effort it becomes easier and cheaper to play a game like CoD on a console.

even with what you listed above you have listed from 50-130$ worth of 'necessary' upgrades. compared to the 10$ upcharge on console games. in CoD for example. its 30$ extra to buy CoD4,5 & 6 when it comes out on the 360 rather than PC.

if you purchase games on Steam its $50 (sometimes 45 for preorder) with no tax, so its $15-20 cheaper vs $60 console game with tax, don't have to deal with driving to the store and waiting in line either.

a good comp is so cheap nowadays $600-700 compared to long ago. I used to be the upgrade every 1.5 year guy until dual cores and strong vid cards came out. Hardware is outpacing software for the past 4 years, I still have the same comp for 3.5 years and it doesnt look like I need to upgrade anytime soon either.

[bowl443]

Originally Posted by speedtrucker

... and also you have less chance of hacks on a console. yes there still are exploits but not as bad as a PC. my buddy is a member of a hack site for BF2 and CoD4, it is shocking to see some of the hacks and how intracate they are on the PC. and how the mastermind is pretty much running a business by outsmarting Punkbuster and the likes.

COD4 for PS3 was plagued by some sort of hack/cheat about a month ago. I was disappointed in Infinity Ward's reaction time.

It is now patched, but if it's been done once, it will be done again.

You are correct that this is more likely to happen on a PC, but it'll catch up to consoles soon enough.

[laserrs]

Anyone catch the trailer last night on NBC? Here it is for those that missed it:
http://modernwarfare2.infinityward.com/

[89c4l98]

i cant wait for this game

[orleanfire]

pre-ordered prestige edition. If I don't like what comes with it, I'll just throw all the accessories up on ebay, thats what I did when I bought GTA IV. Made almost what I spend entirely too.

And somewhere I was reading making these big accessory packs like this is their way to get more money out of the game, because Microsoft wont allow them to sell the game at a higher price, that they know all the fans would willingly pay, so they just add in some neat stuff to get more money out of it.