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rogerxd45 · 12-13-2007, 12:33 PM

ok a friend of mine was saying the girls CANNOT be in combat, he said they can be in the military but they arent allowed to go into battle or any sort of conflict.

i dont know this just didnt seem right to me, it seems to me that it would be discrimnating on the bases of sex and thats no different then not letting blacks or mexicans do something just because they are a different color.
but i am not looking for a debate on the subject i was just wondering if this was true or not or if there is any basis for this comment

and a thanks for all the men and woman that protect our great country, this country would exist without brave people like you

jeepinbanditrider · 12-13-2007, 02:29 PM

The military is not an equal opprotunity employer first off.

Secondly yes females do serve in the line of fire every day. Many of them have given their lives. They cannont serve in "combat" MOSes such as infantry or tanker or something but there are A LOT of supporting MOSes that are on the front lines everyday right along side them.
Just to name a few:
Motor Transport (this is a big one that probably sees a lot of females seeing actual combat)
Medical Personel
Helicopter/Airplane Pilots
ect.

rogerxd45 · 12-13-2007, 02:59 PM

what is MOSes?

jeepinbanditrider · 12-13-2007, 03:09 PM

Military
Occupational
Specialty

I.E a fanncy way to say your job. The military assigns numbers (or letters and numbers) to jobs. Take me for instance. I'm a 6123 The 61 signifies aviation (helicotpers fixed wing is 62) 23 is my specific job within that larger job. I work on T-64 Gas Turbine Engines for a living.

**Druac** · 12-13-2007, 03:19 PM

I'm not about to try and tell the experts how to manage our military...overall, they seem to be doing a great job.

That being said, minus all the small details that I have no clue about, if a ladies can pass the training that the men can, I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be in combat roles.

Ishpeck · 12-13-2007, 03:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri92rg22GnE

SgtWKPII · 12-13-2007, 03:56 PM

I have delat with a lot of women MPs in combat and I think a few of them could kick my ass. I have no clue why they are not allowed in combat MOSs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishpeck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri92rg22GnE

On a side note,

I'm a Black belt MCMAP instructor and that isn't in the sylubus unless they have changed it since the last time I held a course.

StevePVB · 12-13-2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Druac

I'm not about to try and tell the experts how to manage our military...overall, they seem to be doing a great job.

That being said, minus all the small details that I have no clue about, if a ladies can pass the training that the men can, I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be in combat roles.

I agree with you....except. It would end up being just like the quals for UPS drivers, firefighter, etc. They would reduce the requirement.

I know I'll take heat for such "sexist" remarks. It is nonsense though to pretend that there are not physical differences between men and women.

The women in the roles previously mentioned are performing superbly. They are just as capable as men.

**akr** · 12-13-2007, 04:01 PM

I've seen lots of women at Walmart who would make good combat soldiers.

Ishpeck · 12-13-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SgtWKPII

I'm a Black belt MCMAP instructor and that isn't in the sylubus unless they have changed it since the last time I held a course.

My favorite marines are the ones who think "outside the box."

12-13-2007, 12:33 PM	#1
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	females in combat ok a friend of mine was saying the girls CANNOT be in combat, he said they can be in the military but they arent allowed to go into battle or any sort of conflict. i dont know this just didnt seem right to me, it seems to me that it would be discrimnating on the bases of sex and thats no different then not letting blacks or mexicans do something just because they are a different color. but i am not looking for a debate on the subject i was just wondering if this was true or not or if there is any basis for this comment and a thanks for all the men and woman that protect our great country, this country would exist without brave people like you

12-13-2007, 02:29 PM	#2
jeepinbanditrider XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineral Wells, Tx Posts: 4,778	The military is not an equal opprotunity employer first off. Secondly yes females do serve in the line of fire every day. Many of them have given their lives. They cannont serve in "combat" MOSes such as infantry or tanker or something but there are A LOT of supporting MOSes that are on the front lines everyday right along side them. Just to name a few: Motor Transport (this is a big one that probably sees a lot of females seeing actual combat) Medical Personel Helicopter/Airplane Pilots ect. __________________ Stuff USPSA-A59201

12-13-2007, 03:09 PM	#4
jeepinbanditrider XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineral Wells, Tx Posts: 4,778	Military Occupational Specialty I.E a fanncy way to say your job. The military assigns numbers (or letters and numbers) to jobs. Take me for instance. I'm a 6123 The 61 signifies aviation (helicotpers fixed wing is 62) 23 is my specific job within that larger job. I work on T-64 Gas Turbine Engines for a living. __________________ Stuff USPSA-A59201

12-13-2007, 03:19 PM	#5
Druac XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rocklin, CA Posts: 1,062	I'm not about to try and tell the experts how to manage our military...overall, they seem to be doing a great job. That being said, minus all the small details that I have no clue about, if a ladies can pass the training that the men can, I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be in combat roles. __________________ "When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion." - Abraham Lincoln "I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei "God is my savior...he saves me from REALITY!" - My Custom Tee-Shirt "Procreation Certification" - Me Last edited by Druac : 12-13-2007 at 03:21 PM.

12-13-2007, 03:34 PM	#6
Ishpeck XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 3,780	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri92rg22GnE __________________ Fire. Fire is the solution. Politics is ugly. Fire is pretty. Seems like a good trade to me. http://www.ishpeck.net/

12-13-2007, 02:59 PM	#3
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	what is MOSes?

12-13-2007, 04:01 PM	#9
akr XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,298	I've seen lots of women at Walmart who would make good combat soldiers.

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