Concerns over the SureSight... - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

AbNo · 02-03-2007, 01:03 AM

Ok, after browsing SureSight's Site (?), I have to admit i have a few questions that certainly weren't covered in the massive deluge of what I beleive to be sketchily related information. I'd call it fast-talk if it wasn't in print.

My questions are...

1> What does it take to have these installed? It looks like the old sights need to be removed, and don't have the tools or the skill to do this.

2> How will I know they are sighted in properly without several test fires and readjustments?

3> These appear to stick up a lot (granted, that's the design), and the pointy design makes me wonder if they will hang or catch on holsters and clothing, especially loose clothing. Just because you say something fits in a holster doesn't mean that it will fit well, or come out easily. Should I be concerned about draw times and snags?

4> Ok, they'll be replaced for free, but if I have to have a gunsmith put them on, wouldn't I be paying to have the sights taken off and put back on, yet again?

5> What happens if I get them, (presumably pay to) get them installed, and find that either I can't hit anything with them (even after repeated adjustments), they snag when I draw my weapon, or I'm simply not happy with them? Am I stuck with a $90+ purchase (and potentially multiple installation charges?)?

Sure's site has a flood of questionably useful information, but skepticism is something I have learned to use to my advantage. And it's probably saved my butt more times than I'll know.

**philman** · 02-03-2007, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AbNo

Ok, after browsing SureSight's Site (?), I have to admit i have a few questions that certainly weren't covered in the massive deluge of what I beleive to be sketchily related information. I'd call it fast-talk if it wasn't in print.

My questions are...

1> What does it take to have these installed? It looks like the old sights need to be removed, and don't have the tools or the skill to do this.

2> How will I know they are sighted in properly without several test fires and readjustments?

For these two, based on your questions, you need to have a gunsmith change them, only folks familiar with this and with the right tools should do it on their own. I wold not consider Suresights information questionable, they are a good company, standing behind the product, the main question for you is, is this the type sight you want.

TN-popo · 02-03-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AbNo

Ok, after browsing SureSight's Site (?), I'd call it fast-talk if it wasn't in print.

What, specifically, is "fast-talk" on the site?

My questions are...

1> What does it take to have these installed? It looks like the old sights need to be removed, and don't have the tools or the skill to do this.

Yep...same as any other aftermarket sights.

2> How will I know they are sighted in properly without several test fires and readjustments?

You won't...same as any other aftermarket sights.

3> These appear to stick up a lot (granted, that's the design), and the pointy design makes me wonder if they will hang or catch on holsters and clothing, especially loose clothing. Just because you say something fits in a holster doesn't mean that it will fit well, or come out easily. Should I be concerned about draw times and snags?

No, you shouldn't be concerned. As many people here have stated, I don't believe there has been any holster related issues with SureSights.

4> Ok, they'll be replaced for free, but if I have to have a gunsmith put them on, wouldn't I be paying to have the sights taken off and put back on, yet again?

Ummm, yeah, just like any other aftermarket sights that you could not install/remove yourself.

5> What happens if I get them, (presumably pay to) get them installed, and find that either I can't hit anything with them (even after repeated adjustments), they snag when I draw my weapon, or I'm simply not happy with them? Am I stuck with a $90+ purchase (and potentially multiple installation charges?)?

Sure's site has a flood of questionably useful information, but skepticism is something I have learned to use to my advantage. And it's probably saved my butt more times than I'll know.

You are obviously very dubious of the product and the sales approach...so why bother?
If these really are serious issues to you, I'd pass.

Many people have valid questions/opinions (good and bad) about SureSights, but the tenor of your post makes me think that you are less interested in the sights and more interested in floating negative comments about a company and product that you have no experience with.

XD-D.C. · 02-03-2007, 10:58 AM

In AbNo's defense, I think he and any other person has the right to be some what skeptical of a new product. I sure was as first, then I realized most of his business comes from word of mouth on forums just like this. If suresight's claims were not true then we sure would hear about it. I have yet to hear any serious negative comments from people who have actually USED the product. That should tell you about suresight's claims.

Also, the other day I made a suggestion to Leibster about his website, and in a matter of a day or two he changed it. If the company's owner is that willing to change his website over a suggestion, I can only assume he will be more than willing to improve current products and even future products if a problem arises. I would not worry about the integrity of the company. Having said that... the only way you will know if the sights work for you is to buy them. If you find they don't work for you, then I am sure there will be plenty of people on this forum that will be happy to take that burden off your shoulders.

TN-popo · 02-03-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by XD-D.C.

In AbNo's defense, I think he and any other person has the right to be some what skeptical of a new product.

I completely agree with you (I also have some thoughts about the Gen 2 SureSight).

But, please reread my post...its his apparent "agenda" that bothered me.

aiformula · 02-03-2007, 03:20 PM

Just installed them. Brass punch and a hammer and all is good. They do not snag in my holster, but then again, it's kydex. I am going to radius down the front of the front sight, but that's just to go along w/ the rest of the project of making the gun as snag resistant as you can easily make an XD. Look for updates to the concealed carry hs2000 post tomorrow for a few pics.

XD-D.C. · 02-03-2007, 04:50 PM

Give us a range report when you can.

XD-D.C. · 02-03-2007, 05:04 PM

TN-popo,

I understand what you mean, sorry if I sounded argumentative. I have a question though. You said "Gen 2 suresight", what do you mean Gen 2? I haven't seen anything about that. Was there a Gen 1? and is there much of a difference?

aiformula · 02-03-2007, 05:18 PM

Hope to take the gun to the range tomorrow. Check out the other thread I mentioned earlier.... I've voiced my first impressions of these sights over there.

TN-popo · 02-03-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by XD-D.C.

TN-popo,
You said "Gen 2 suresight", what do you mean Gen 2? I haven't seen anything about that. Was there a Gen 1? and is there much of a difference?

Yes, sir.
This is the second commercial version of the SureSight. The first version used delrin inserts, instead of paint, to make the triangle. TruGlo made them.
I owned a pair of the Gen 1 SureSights. I liked them, except that my elevation was way off, so I returned them. Some had problems with the inserts popping off...I didn't.

Leibster, please correct any of this if I'm wrong.

BTW, XD-D.C....no need to apologize. You allowed me to clarify my issues with the thread starter.
Take care.

02-03-2007, 01:03 AM	#1
AbNo XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Shenandoah Valley, VA Posts: 356	Concerns over the SureSight... Ok, after browsing SureSight's Site (?), I have to admit i have a few questions that certainly weren't covered in the massive deluge of what I beleive to be sketchily related information. I'd call it fast-talk if it wasn't in print. My questions are... 1> What does it take to have these installed? It looks like the old sights need to be removed, and don't have the tools or the skill to do this. 2> How will I know they are sighted in properly without several test fires and readjustments? 3> These appear to stick up a lot (granted, that's the design), and the pointy design makes me wonder if they will hang or catch on holsters and clothing, especially loose clothing. Just because you say something fits in a holster doesn't mean that it will fit well, or come out easily. Should I be concerned about draw times and snags? 4> Ok, they'll be replaced for free, but if I have to have a gunsmith put them on, wouldn't I be paying to have the sights taken off and put back on, yet again? 5> What happens if I get them, (presumably pay to) get them installed, and find that either I can't hit anything with them (even after repeated adjustments), they snag when I draw my weapon, or I'm simply not happy with them? Am I stuck with a $90+ purchase (and potentially multiple installation charges?)? Sure's site has a flood of questionably useful information, but skepticism is something I have learned to use to my advantage. And it's probably saved my butt more times than I'll know.

02-03-2007, 03:20 PM	#6
aiformula XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sw ohio Posts: 3,068	Just installed them. Brass punch and a hammer and all is good. They do not snag in my holster, but then again, it's kydex. I am going to radius down the front of the front sight, but that's just to go along w/ the rest of the project of making the gun as snag resistant as you can easily make an XD. Look for updates to the concealed carry hs2000 post tomorrow for a few pics. __________________ Tony Guns are like orgasms.......you just can't have enough good ones! "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess (a liberal gift) out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship" tyler

02-03-2007, 05:18 PM	#9
aiformula XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sw ohio Posts: 3,068	Hope to take the gun to the range tomorrow. Check out the other thread I mentioned earlier.... I've voiced my first impressions of these sights over there. __________________ Tony Guns are like orgasms.......you just can't have enough good ones! "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess (a liberal gift) out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship" tyler

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02-03-2007, 10:58 AM	#4
XD-D.C. XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 66	In AbNo's defense, I think he and any other person has the right to be some what skeptical of a new product. I sure was as first, then I realized most of his business comes from word of mouth on forums just like this. If suresight's claims were not true then we sure would hear about it. I have yet to hear any serious negative comments from people who have actually USED the product. That should tell you about suresight's claims. Also, the other day I made a suggestion to Leibster about his website, and in a matter of a day or two he changed it. If the company's owner is that willing to change his website over a suggestion, I can only assume he will be more than willing to improve current products and even future products if a problem arises. I would not worry about the integrity of the company. Having said that... the only way you will know if the sights work for you is to buy them. If you find they don't work for you, then I am sure there will be plenty of people on this forum that will be happy to take that burden off your shoulders.

02-03-2007, 04:50 PM	#7
XD-D.C. XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 66	Give us a range report when you can.

02-03-2007, 05:04 PM	#8
XD-D.C. XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 66	TN-popo, I understand what you mean, sorry if I sounded argumentative. I have a question though. You said "Gen 2 suresight", what do you mean Gen 2? I haven't seen anything about that. Was there a Gen 1? and is there much of a difference?