XD9 in ESP: is it a disadvantage? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

cheapo · 04-20-2005, 08:09 AM

Since the IDPA and ATF say that the XD9 is single action, thereby, forcing the XD9 into the ESP division, is the XD's at a distinct disadvantage in this division? Some seem to believe that the XD is a poor gamer gun. What are your thoughts. I have only competed in 2 IDPA matches with my XD9 and would like to hear from some that have used XDs or HS2000 in competiton for a while.

ScottQ · 04-20-2005, 11:32 AM

I can't speak to your IDPA question, since I shoot only IPSC to date, but I can tell you in IPSC the XD is a nearly perfect Production gun, and considered by many to be the one of the best available for USPSA Production class shooting.

Scott

JimLongley · 04-20-2005, 05:29 PM

Recall that IDPA divisions are set up so that the only competition is wthin them. I have used mine several times and don't feel at that much of a disadvantage aganst other ESP shooters. When the Barstow trigger and sear get installed I expect to improve.

**R Dub** · 04-20-2005, 08:46 PM

I don't see it as a disadvantage. I beat Glocks, 9mm 1991s, .40 cal 1911s and I get my butt whupped by them also. The only disadvantage I see in IDPA is not making holes in -0 circle.

Snake-eater 1 · 04-21-2005, 03:10 AM

This past weekend I shot the IDPA classifier with an XD9, a 1911 in 9mm, and a Glock 17. All three times were within 3 seconds of each other. I'd say it's the shooter not the gun, IMHO

MoJo · 04-21-2005, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake-eater 1

This past weekend I shot the IDPA classifier with an XD9, a 1911 in 9mm, and a Glock 17. All three times were within 3 seconds of each other. I'd say it's the shooter not the gun, IMHO

Gotta agree with Snake-eater 1 - - - it's the shooter.

Two weekends ago, I shot in a Citizens Police Academy Alumni match. I was shooting my XD9 there were all sorts of other guns being used. In the last man standing plate shoot the last three shooters up were using a Glock, a 1911, and me with my XD. The 1911 guy got the bye and I outshot the guy with the glock (I cleaned the rack he missed one) the guy with the 1911 beat me by .5 second we both cleaned the rack. I think, he would have beaten me even if we had traded guns he's just faster. By the way, an 81 year old WWII fighter piot shooting a revolver was fifth!!!!

cheapo · 04-21-2005, 08:19 AM

Thanks for the opinions. Yeah, I have known some guys who would seem to beat me in a match no matter what gun you gave them. (but then again they could probably beat me throwing rocks). The shooter is the most important factor in competition.

The Manager · 04-23-2005, 04:10 PM

The only reason I went for the .40 instead of the 9mm is the occasional steel popper that is set heavy and takes a higher hit with the 9. It's seldom an issue but I shoot better with less worries.

Gary G23 · 05-13-2005, 07:00 PM

At club level competition, no. At national level competition, hell yes. I've shot the Nationals four times and have never seen anyone win ESP with a XD, have you?

**R Dub** · 05-13-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary G23

At club level competition, no. At national level competition, hell yes. I've shot the Nationals four times and have never seen anyone win ESP with a XD, have you?

If TGO would compete in ESP instead of CDP you would probably see it.

04-20-2005, 08:09 AM	#1
cheapo XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 95	XD9 in ESP: is it a disadvantage? Since the IDPA and ATF say that the XD9 is single action, thereby, forcing the XD9 into the ESP division, is the XD's at a distinct disadvantage in this division? Some seem to believe that the XD is a poor gamer gun. What are your thoughts. I have only competed in 2 IDPA matches with my XD9 and would like to hear from some that have used XDs or HS2000 in competiton for a while.

04-20-2005, 05:29 PM	#3
JimLongley XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Allen, TX Posts: 822	Recall that IDPA divisions are set up so that the only competition is wthin them. I have used mine several times and don't feel at that much of a disadvantage aganst other ESP shooters. When the Barstow trigger and sear get installed I expect to improve. __________________ Gun control is very small groups - OFFHAND.

04-20-2005, 08:46 PM	#4
R Dub XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Last Frontier Posts: 3,627 Blog Entries: 1	I don't see it as a disadvantage. I beat Glocks, 9mm 1991s, .40 cal 1911s and I get my butt whupped by them also. The only disadvantage I see in IDPA is not making holes in -0 circle. __________________ Need XD Accessories? Support the XDTalk Sponsors. They support us! Need some competition? IDPA / USPSA

04-21-2005, 03:10 AM	#5
Snake-eater 1 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Quinque, VA Posts: 2,653	This past weekend I shot the IDPA classifier with an XD9, a 1911 in 9mm, and a Glock 17. All three times were within 3 seconds of each other. I'd say it's the shooter not the gun, IMHO __________________ ----------------------------------------------- "Too soon, old. Too late, smart" anon

04-23-2005, 04:10 PM	#8
The Manager XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: California Posts: 14	The only reason I went for the .40 instead of the 9mm is the occasional steel popper that is set heavy and takes a higher hit with the 9. It's seldom an issue but I shoot better with less worries. __________________ Note To Self- Get More Trigger Time.

04-20-2005, 11:32 AM	#2
ScottQ XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 103	I can't speak to your IDPA question, since I shoot only IPSC to date, but I can tell you in IPSC the XD is a nearly perfect Production gun, and considered by many to be the one of the best available for USPSA Production class shooting. Scott

04-21-2005, 08:19 AM	#7
cheapo XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 95	Thanks for the opinions. Yeah, I have known some guys who would seem to beat me in a match no matter what gun you gave them. (but then again they could probably beat me throwing rocks). The shooter is the most important factor in competition.

05-13-2005, 07:00 PM	#9
Gary G23 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 105	At club level competition, no. At national level competition, hell yes. I've shot the Nationals four times and have never seen anyone win ESP with a XD, have you?

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