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scalce · 07-13-2007, 06:51 AM

I started shooting in January with WWB and other cheap 115s.

I started reloading about a month ago and have been testing 115, 124, and 147 loads.

I noticed that not only does my XD like 124 and 147s better but I am able to get back on target faster and hit a paper plate with 6 out of 6 rounds at 50 feet.

My XD also seems to like plated rounds instead of jacketed but I guess that is a good thing.

I even had a local Bullseye guru shoot my XD with 115s and it wouldn't hold a group to save it's life.

Is the slower cycling of a 124 or 147 a non issue if it lets you have a more accurate follow-up shot as opposed to a faster one?

Should I look into getting an after market drop in barrel?

ichy_trigger · 07-13-2007, 06:54 AM

I would shoot the 147's if I were you. You wont notice enough diffence in slide speed to affect anything.

mcb · 07-13-2007, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalce

I started shooting in January with WWB and other cheap 115s.

I started reloading about a month ago and have been testing 115, 124, and 147 loads.

I noticed that not only does my XD like 124 and 147s better but I am able to get back on target faster and hit a paper plate with 6 out of 6 rounds at 50 feet.

My XD also seems to like plated rounds instead of jacketed but I guess that is a good thing.

I even had a local Bullseye guru shoot my XD with 115s and it wouldn't hold a group to save it's life.

Is the slower cycling of a 124 or 147 a non issue if it lets you have a more accurate follow-up shot as opposed to a faster one?

Should I look into getting an after market drop in barrel?

You have learned what many have in the shooting games. Heavy slow bullet feel better than fast light bullets loaded to similar power factors. In reality your 147 grain bullet do make your gun cycle very slightly slower but in all honest it makes little difference compared to the ability to get the sights back on target. Even with the slowest cycling handgun the speed of cycling will always be faster than you trigger finger and your ability to get the sight back on target.

If your gun likes 147 plated bullets go for it. As for aftermarket barrel. If your shooting good groups with the factor barrel I wouldn't upgrade use the money for more ammo and practice. I would only change barrel if your factor barrel is not giving you acceptable accuracy.

Rambling
mcb

scalce · 07-13-2007, 10:47 AM

What about swapping out the 18# spring for the 20# on my DGR?

Would it increase/decrease recoil or speed up/slow down slide cycling?

mcb · 07-13-2007, 11:30 AM

You don't want to select your recoil spring to increase or decrease you cycle speed but select the recoil spring that brings your sight back on target after recoil.

If take your XD and put a really light recoil spring in it you will find that after recoil and follow through your sights will probably settle above your initial point of aim. This is dues to the slide return to battery softer/slower leaving the gun pointed high.

If you put a really stiff recoil spring in the gun you will find that after the initial shot your sights will settle below your initial point of aim. This is due to the slide slamming into battery under the force of the heavier spring making the front of the gun dive down.

The key is finding the spring the work with your shoot style. A spring for one person may be too soft and yet too stiff for another shooter. It all depend on how the shooter holds the gun. You just have to play with recoil spring and see which one work best for you to put the sights back on target the quickest. Your accentually tuning the guns recoil to your body.

Hope that helps
mcb

Dkemxr · 07-14-2007, 06:43 PM

It's a function of the loads you are using as well. I'm shooting 147 Rainiers loaded to ~128PF and a 16# spring works well for me. Get's back on target faster than the stock 18#. When I was shooting WWB the stock spring was fine.

GaryTx · 07-14-2007, 07:08 PM

I shoot 147 gr factory ammo for steel plate competition because I get back on target quicker with it. I thought they were nuts when somebody told me to try it. They were right.

Paul · 07-14-2007, 10:09 PM

Atlanta Arms 147 gr. JHP ammo. I have not shot 124 gr. ammo much.

scalce · 07-14-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dkemxr

It's a function of the loads you are using as well. I'm shooting 147 Rainiers loaded to ~128PF and a 16# spring works well for me. Get's back on target faster than the stock 18#. When I was shooting WWB the stock spring was fine.

4" or 5" XD?

Dkemxr · 07-26-2007, 08:02 PM

5". My current load is the 147 FP rainer w/ 3.25 gr VV N320. ~870 FPS

07-13-2007, 06:51 AM	#1
scalce XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,415	9mm Bullet Weight For Games I started shooting in January with WWB and other cheap 115s. I started reloading about a month ago and have been testing 115, 124, and 147 loads. I noticed that not only does my XD like 124 and 147s better but I am able to get back on target faster and hit a paper plate with 6 out of 6 rounds at 50 feet. My XD also seems to like plated rounds instead of jacketed but I guess that is a good thing. I even had a local Bullseye guru shoot my XD with 115s and it wouldn't hold a group to save it's life. Is the slower cycling of a 124 or 147 a non issue if it lets you have a more accurate follow-up shot as opposed to a faster one? Should I look into getting an after market drop in barrel? Last edited by scalce : 07-13-2007 at 06:54 AM.

07-13-2007, 06:54 AM	#2
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,417	I would shoot the 147's if I were you. You wont notice enough diffence in slide speed to affect anything. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

07-13-2007, 11:30 AM	#5
mcb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 2,038	You don't want to select your recoil spring to increase or decrease you cycle speed but select the recoil spring that brings your sight back on target after recoil. If take your XD and put a really light recoil spring in it you will find that after recoil and follow through your sights will probably settle above your initial point of aim. This is dues to the slide return to battery softer/slower leaving the gun pointed high. If you put a really stiff recoil spring in the gun you will find that after the initial shot your sights will settle below your initial point of aim. This is due to the slide slamming into battery under the force of the heavier spring making the front of the gun dive down. The key is finding the spring the work with your shoot style. A spring for one person may be too soft and yet too stiff for another shooter. It all depend on how the shooter holds the gun. You just have to play with recoil spring and see which one work best for you to put the sights back on target the quickest. Your accentually tuning the guns recoil to your body. Hope that helps mcb __________________ If at first you don't succeed; RELOAD _ _ _ _ My web site

07-14-2007, 07:08 PM	#7
GaryTx XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,103	I shoot 147 gr factory ammo for steel plate competition because I get back on target quicker with it. I thought they were nuts when somebody told me to try it. They were right. __________________ "I have tried to live my life so that my family would love me and my friends respect me. The others can do whatever the hell they please." ~John Wayne

07-14-2007, 10:09 PM	#8
Paul XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,607	Atlanta Arms 147 gr. JHP ammo. I have not shot 124 gr. ammo much. __________________ Paul

07-13-2007, 10:47 AM	#4
scalce XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,415	What about swapping out the 18# spring for the 20# on my DGR? Would it increase/decrease recoil or speed up/slow down slide cycling?

07-14-2007, 06:43 PM	#6
Dkemxr XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 38	It's a function of the loads you are using as well. I'm shooting 147 Rainiers loaded to ~128PF and a 16# spring works well for me. Get's back on target faster than the stock 18#. When I was shooting WWB the stock spring was fine.

07-26-2007, 08:02 PM	#10
Dkemxr XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 38	5". My current load is the 147 FP rainer w/ 3.25 gr VV N320. ~870 FPS

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