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propellerhead · 07-03-2007, 07:11 AM

Sounds like I should classify if I were to compete at the state level. But for the weekly club matches, it doesn't make a difference. In fact, I think it's cooler to be "UN" and score up there with the SS or EX guys.

**jnclement** · 07-03-2007, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by propellerhead

Sounds like I should classify if I were to compete at the state level. But for the weekly club matches, it doesn't make a difference. In fact, I think it's cooler to be "UN" and score up there with the SS or EX guys.

Cooler? Like the guys who lie about their golf handicap so they can beat guys with a lower handicap? Is that an insecurity thing? Our club lists results by class, we don't do an overall ranking. But that doesn't really matter. If your only reason for playing the game is to exercise non-conformance and sandbag, why play?

Salilus · 07-03-2007, 08:26 AM

propellerhead: You wouldnt happen to shoot with Cross Timbers IDPA at the Winchester Gallery would you?

propellerhead · 07-03-2007, 08:26 AM

Whoa! Non-conformance and sandbag?! Rinse the sand out of your ******, will you? Then tell me why you classified.

I play the game because I enjoy shooting. As far as competition goes, I really compete against myself and I have been able to judge my performance based on where my name appears in the list of 25-30 names, regardless of classification. It's not an static measure but it's good enough. Some of the guys said I should classify but never provided a reason other than "You should" or "That's the way the game goes". That's why I posted this thread. I don't really have a problem with classifying. I just want to know why. So far the only reasons I've found are...

1. If we had over 100 shooters each week, then stacking the scores by classification will let me watch my performance better.
2. If I want to compete at the state level, it's required.
3. [insert your reason here]

propellerhead · 07-03-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Salilus

propellerhead: You wouldnt happen to shoot with Cross Timbers IDPA at the Winchester Gallery would you?

Yes, that's me. Which one are you? Are you shooting this Thursday? I plan to.

**jnclement** · 07-03-2007, 11:13 AM

Why did I classify? So I could be in a division. Why did I re-classify? Because the classifier was our match one Saturday, as required by IDPA rules for IDPA sanctioned clubs.

Ultimately, I guess I did it because the Item #7 under Shooter Responsibilities said "Obtain a valid classification and maintain it by shooting the classifier at least once every twelve (12) months (except master class shooters), and I believed it was true. I also believed it was true that I could only shoot one match as a non-IDPA member. As a general rule, I try to follow the rules of any organization I choose to belong to. I don't know if I'm just old fashioned, or a moron. My equipment is legal too, so maybe I am a moron. Or have sand in my *****.

leeindy · 07-03-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jnclement

Why did I classify? So I could be in a division. Why did I re-classify? Because the classifier was our match one Saturday, as required by IDPA rules for IDPA sanctioned clubs.

Ultimately, I guess I did it because the Item #7 under Shooter Responsibilities said "Obtain a valid classification and maintain it by shooting the classifier at least once every twelve (12) months (except master class shooters), and I believed it was true. I also believed it was true that I could only shoot one match as a non-IDPA member. As a general rule, I try to follow the rules of any organization I choose to belong to. I don't know if I'm just old fashioned, or a moron. My equipment is legal too, so maybe I am a moron. Or have sand in my *****.

we only let people shoot 2 matches as a non idpa member. any more and they have to become members of both ours and idpa.

DNM · 07-03-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by leeindy

we only let people shoot 2 matches as a non idpa member. any more and they have to become members of both ours and idpa.

I think it's about the same here... but we don't have to be a member of the group. But once you're on the forum, you're ok... I guess. As for the sandbagging issue... if you shoot as often as you claim Prop, you have no element of surprise. People will get to know you and remember you and you'll just be that good, lazy guy who won't classify.

leeindy · 07-03-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DNM

I think it's about the same here... but we don't have to be a member of the group. But once you're on the forum, you're ok... I guess. As for the sandbagging issue... if you shoot as often as you claim Prop, you have no element of surprise. People will get to know you and remember you and you'll just be that good, lazy guy who won't classify.

we dont actually put the ranking on our scoresheets. except for sanctioned. we all know who is who and who is really good. and the top five are all ROs

propellerhead · 07-04-2007, 08:45 AM

I never said I would not classify or not conform to club rules. I just want to know why because I hate doing stuff blindly. And that's why I ask here. I was hoping someone had some insight.

Follow me here if you will... the Mozambique Drill. It's two to the body and one to the head. Why? If the first two shots to the chest don't stop your attacker possibly due to a drug induced rage or body armor, more shots to the chest will likely do nothing. A head shot is the next best option. Slicing the pie. The first target is the one that has the best view of you as you come out of cover. There's a reason for doing certain things and I like to understand them. Hence, classify... why?

07-03-2007, 07:11 AM	#11
propellerhead XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Foat Wurth, TX Posts: 3,576	Sounds like I should classify if I were to compete at the state level. But for the weekly club matches, it doesn't make a difference. In fact, I think it's cooler to be "UN" and score up there with the SS or EX guys. __________________ XD-9 Tactical for IDPA, XD-40 Subcompact for concealed carry, XD-45 Service for home defense. Three calibers, three models, three purposes. No compromises.

07-03-2007, 08:26 AM	#13
Salilus XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 235	propellerhead: You wouldnt happen to shoot with Cross Timbers IDPA at the Winchester Gallery would you? __________________ XD .40 Tactical M&P Compact 9mm (Wife's) Mossberg 12 ga. Persuader Remmington 20 ga. 1100 LT Remmington 700 .308 Arisaka /w Bayonet 7.7 Jap Marlin 336 30-30

07-03-2007, 08:26 AM	#14
propellerhead XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Foat Wurth, TX Posts: 3,576	Whoa! Non-conformance and sandbag?! Rinse the sand out of your ******, will you? Then tell me why you classified. I play the game because I enjoy shooting. As far as competition goes, I really compete against myself and I have been able to judge my performance based on where my name appears in the list of 25-30 names, regardless of classification. It's not an static measure but it's good enough. Some of the guys said I should classify but never provided a reason other than "You should" or "That's the way the game goes". That's why I posted this thread. I don't really have a problem with classifying. I just want to know why. So far the only reasons I've found are... 1. If we had over 100 shooters each week, then stacking the scores by classification will let me watch my performance better. 2. If I want to compete at the state level, it's required. 3. [insert your reason here] __________________ XD-9 Tactical for IDPA, XD-40 Subcompact for concealed carry, XD-45 Service for home defense. Three calibers, three models, three purposes. No compromises.

07-03-2007, 11:13 AM	#16
jnclement XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 2,604	Why did I classify? So I could be in a division. Why did I re-classify? Because the classifier was our match one Saturday, as required by IDPA rules for IDPA sanctioned clubs. Ultimately, I guess I did it because the Item #7 under Shooter Responsibilities said "Obtain a valid classification and maintain it by shooting the classifier at least once every twelve (12) months (except master class shooters), and I believed it was true. I also believed it was true that I could only shoot one match as a non-IDPA member. As a general rule, I try to follow the rules of any organization I choose to belong to. I don't know if I'm just old fashioned, or a moron. My equipment is legal too, so maybe I am a moron. Or have sand in my ****. __________________ Contrary to what sells magazines, not all of us are, or want to be SpecOps, SEAL, Recon, Delta, CQB, Ninja, firearm-knife-tactical-death-touch instructors.*

07-04-2007, 08:45 AM	#20
propellerhead XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Foat Wurth, TX Posts: 3,576	I never said I would not classify or not conform to club rules. I just want to know why because I hate doing stuff blindly. And that's why I ask here. I was hoping someone had some insight. Follow me here if you will... the Mozambique Drill. It's two to the body and one to the head. Why? If the first two shots to the chest don't stop your attacker possibly due to a drug induced rage or body armor, more shots to the chest will likely do nothing. A head shot is the next best option. Slicing the pie. The first target is the one that has the best view of you as you come out of cover. There's a reason for doing certain things and I like to understand them. Hence, classify... why? __________________ XD-9 Tactical for IDPA, XD-40 Subcompact for concealed carry, XD-45 Service for home defense. Three calibers, three models, three purposes. No compromises.

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