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chupacabrachus · 09-21-2006, 09:19 PM

It's faster for me to ask this here than wade through pages of a rule book since you all know it by heart. What exactally can be done/modded to a production gun and still be legal? Lets use our favorite gun, an XD, as an example. Can the trigger be modded at all? the grip? the finish? the sights? the mags?

Paul · 09-21-2006, 10:04 PM

I believe IDPA and USPSA have different rules. For that matter, IPSC and USPSA have different rules.

For production in USPSA you can do internal mods. This would include a DGR and/or trigger job.

It is nicely spelled out here:

http://www.uspsa.org/

Make sure you look at the USPSA rules.

chupacabrachus · 09-21-2006, 10:24 PM

I just downloaded both rule books. For some reason I thought they were the same. My bad. Looks like trigger mods are premissable so long as the 1st shot is greater than or equal to 5# of trigger pull in USPSA, I don't recall the IPSA saying anything about poundage for modded trigger pull. It's odd though, the USPSA book said trigger work is okay, but goes on to say something about how you can't change internal parts at all unless it was availible from the factory / an option. So... does custom shop work done to a factory gun count as an option? So vague, these rules!

Paul · 09-21-2006, 10:34 PM

You read the wrong rulebook. USPSA Production.

Two things different I noticed right away between IPSC and USPSA - Mag capacity and trigger pull.

**Old School** · 09-22-2006, 05:22 AM

As long as you don't stipple the frame or install a magwell, install a big button mag release, and keep the sights notch and post, you are fine in Production.

big al · 09-22-2006, 06:23 AM

and no ports or comp.

lodraw · 09-22-2006, 08:46 PM

An easy way to look at it is like this. Buy the tactical or service model of your choice. Get a good trigger job. And your done. That alone is a race ready XD.

chupacabrachus · 09-22-2006, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lodraw

An easy way to look at it is like this. Buy the tactical or service model of your choice. Get a good trigger job. And your done. That alone is a race ready XD.

:::::nervious laughter::::: um... I'm not going to be shooting an XD. ::::ducks for cover under desk:::::

The Knight Of Light · 09-22-2006, 10:34 PM

What are you shooting??? is there a g in the word??? It's OK I own one too.

lodraw · 09-23-2006, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chupacabrachus

:::::nervious laughter::::: um... I'm not going to be shooting an XD. ::::ducks for cover under desk:::::

...it's all good! If your not using a XD, hopefully it's a 'G' gun. Same thing applies. Seriously, just have at least 4 mags (5 is best), a solid gun belt, a couple double mag holders, something equal to or better than an Uncle Mikes kydex holster and your off to the races. Oh yeah bring ammo.

09-21-2006, 09:19 PM	#1
chupacabrachus XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,394	production class questions It's faster for me to ask this here than wade through pages of a rule book since you all know it by heart. What exactally can be done/modded to a production gun and still be legal? Lets use our favorite gun, an XD, as an example. Can the trigger be modded at all? the grip? the finish? the sights? the mags?

09-21-2006, 10:04 PM	#2
Paul XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,648	I believe IDPA and USPSA have different rules. For that matter, IPSC and USPSA have different rules. For production in USPSA you can do internal mods. This would include a DGR and/or trigger job. It is nicely spelled out here: http://www.uspsa.org/ Make sure you look at the USPSA rules. __________________ Paul

09-21-2006, 10:34 PM	#4
Paul XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,648	You read the wrong rulebook. USPSA Production. Two things different I noticed right away between IPSC and USPSA - Mag capacity and trigger pull. __________________ Paul

09-22-2006, 05:22 AM	#5
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,630	As long as you don't stipple the frame or install a magwell, install a big button mag release, and keep the sights notch and post, you are fine in Production. __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

09-22-2006, 08:46 PM	#7
lodraw XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mesa, Arizona. Shooting Capital of the Known Universe Posts: 230	An easy way to look at it is like this. Buy the tactical or service model of your choice. Get a good trigger job. And your done. That alone is a race ready XD. __________________ Bulgarian Mak 9x18 XD Service 9x19 XD Tactical 40S&W w/Canyon Creek melted Bomars and his trigger. Swingline Staple Gun 5/16'' Beretta 390 12ga http://www.brianenos.com/forums/ http://uspsa.org/entrypage.shtml

09-21-2006, 10:24 PM	#3
chupacabrachus XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,394	I just downloaded both rule books. For some reason I thought they were the same. My bad. Looks like trigger mods are premissable so long as the 1st shot is greater than or equal to 5# of trigger pull in USPSA, I don't recall the IPSA saying anything about poundage for modded trigger pull. It's odd though, the USPSA book said trigger work is okay, but goes on to say something about how you can't change internal parts at all unless it was availible from the factory / an option. So... does custom shop work done to a factory gun count as an option? So vague, these rules!

09-22-2006, 06:23 AM	#6
big al XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: norcal Posts: 78	and no ports or comp.

09-22-2006, 10:34 PM	#9
The Knight Of Light XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 8,840 Blog Entries: 12	What are you shooting??? is there a g in the word??? It's OK I own one too. __________________ No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. USPSA #L3077 What a great number!!! http://theknightoflight.blogspot.com/ Creator of TOP 'O' THE PAGE!!! Moose Fight Last edited by The Knight Of Light; 09-22-2006 at 10:36 PM.

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