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Originally Posted by kirkorner
*note* I am only doing this in case (heaven forbid) my house would burn down
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It seems to me nothing you mentioned focuses on the problem you claim to be interested in solving.
You want to prep for a house fire. That's very smart, it's the most likely SHTF-event in the USA by a gigantic, ridiculous margin. First, watch this video:
Now tell me, what can you grab (in the 30 seconds or so before the smoke inhalation kills you) that you would like to have next to you on the sidewalk (which is where you'll be standing after your house burns down)?
Maybe your family? Pets? Clothing? Wallet? Some water to wash the carbon soot off your face?
Notice how thousands of rounds of ammo is not on that list.
If the fire dept rocks up to your burning house and you are standing in front of the house looking like John Rambo, they are going to call SWAT on your ass, and watch your house burn to the ground.
First is protect yourself and your family. Do they all know where to go and what to do when the CO2 alarms go off?
Do they all have BOB's for their clothing, meds, weather protection, toiletries, food, water? No, none of them needs an AK-47, either.
Then protect your assets. Fireproof safes are great, but they're not really fireproof. They're all rated to a certain temp for a certain amount of time before they fail. So, consider offsite backup of all your important stuff. Scan all your important pictures and documents. It will take a long time. Put it all in a folder, or series of folders, each one less than 25 megs.
Encrypt each folder, and then email them to a free GMail account. Now Google has a backup of all your important crap, but it's encrypted, so no one will screw with it.
When some important doc changes, update that particular folder only, re-encrypt, archive the old email with the old version, and email yourself the new one. Easy and free.
There are of course pay services which do this, too, but the important thing is that now, even if your fireproof safe failed, you're still covered, because you have copies of all the important stuff.
This is important because if your wife has to get rushed to the hospital for smoke inhalation, you aren't bringing your safe with you -- it's buried underneath tons of smoking debris -- IF it even survived. The fire dept isn't going to let you near it for a long time. The hospital will have a computer with internet access, so you can download the folder, decrypt, and tell them, "Yes, my insurance number is 1234 and my wife is allergic to penicillin. Here's her complete medical history."
And when the fire insurance agent meets you at your hotel the next day (the fire dept still won't let you go digging for your safe) and says, "Well, can you prove you had a new 30,000 roof installed?" You download the folder with pictures of all your property, and say, "Yes, have a look" and then you download the folder with scanned copies of the receipts, and say, "Oh, it was more like 31,000 dollars, here's the proof."
I would totally recommend sticking a carry gun in your bob as long as you're legal, but surviving a house fire has nothing to do with firepower, and that's what you claim this thread is about...
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Stuff to put in the SHTF safe?
Stuff to put in the SHTF safe?
I have recently acquired a new fireproof safe that my dad picked up at a yard sale. I already have a house safe that has all my important documents in it that I need in case of emergency. My gun safe is already full as well. This new safe I have is not large by any means, but it is large enough to put things in for SHTF scenarios. (16" x 9.5" x 9.5" inside) 
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