The most logical, believable and probable "collapse" scenario (article)

[impulse]

Never understood why people get tax breaks, when they have kids. Now I'm not a fan of taxes in any form. But wouldn't it make more sense to tax these people higher, because their offspring will be more of a burden on society?

It's sad the people who have the intelligence, and money to have kids. Don't.

Those who have room temperature IQs, and zero money. Do.

[partdeux]

Originally Posted by impulse

Never understood why people get tax breaks, when they have kids.

Exponential growth

[Rt1Rebel]

While the described scenerio is certainly plausible, there is a polical bend to that piece I don't buy.

[SRStaff]

Originally Posted by Rt1Rebel

While the described scenerio is certainly plausible, there is a polical bend to that piece I don't buy.

Yes, its decidedly liberal and leaning seriously towards socialistic. Not that I disagree with the slow decline/collapse already happening premise, because I agree with that... its just the cause or the backdrop explanation/editorial that I disagree with.

[wgedwards]

The decline is real and ubiquitous. Anyone who has traveled throughout the US in the last five years has seen it first hand from the largest cities to the smallest village. The changes have been dramatic. However, socialism is not the answer, it is the problem. More people taking than giving in a society has never worked in human history.


The concept of personal responsibility is glaringly absent from the article. The fault always belongs to someone else. I'm not in debt because I spent more than I make. I'm in debt because the evil banks made me borrow all that money. I'm fat because McDonald's made me eat every meal from the drive thru and forced me to supersize it. I'm ignorant because the bad teachers didn't teach me. The fact that I didn't do all that dumb, boring homework. Who has time to read a book? Really!


The problems of today are not insurmountable. Humanity has come back from some pretty serious and long last difficulties. The Dark Ages comes to mind along with wars, purges, plagues, and that little economic stumble called the Great Depression. And we all know that things never got better after any of those events. Oh, wait . . . Maybe those people had more courage, imagination, principles, intelligence, guts, and faith.


It is going to be very difficult for everyone, but we will work through it and it will be better, contrary to the defeatism in the article.

[SonOfLiberty]

Originally Posted by wgedwards

The decline is real and ubiquitous. Anyone who has traveled throughout the US in the last five years has seen it first hand from the largest cities to the smallest village. The changes have been dramatic. However, socialism is not the answer, it is the problem. More people taking than giving in a society has never worked in human history.


The concept of personal responsibility is glaringly absent from the article. The fault always belongs to someone else. I'm not in debt because I spent more than I make. I'm in debt because the evil banks made me borrow all that money. I'm fat because McDonald's made me eat every meal from the drive thru and forced me to supersize it. I'm ignorant because the bad teachers didn't teach me. The fact that I didn't do all that duumb, boring homework. Who has time to read a book? Really!


The problems of today are not insurmountable. Humanity has come back from some pretty serious and long last difficulties. The Dark Ages comes to mind along with wars, purges, plagues, and that little economic stumble called the Great Depression. And we all know that things never got better after any of those events. Oh, wait . . . Maybe those people had more courage, imagination, principles, intelligence, guts, and faith.


It is going to be very difficult for everyone, but we will work through it and it will be better, contrary to the defeatism in the article.

^ as perfect as a sub MOA group at 1000 meters.

[SonOfOdin]

Read "Lights Out" and "One Second After".

I have them on PDF form for anyone that wants to.

[SRStaff]

Originally Posted by wgedwards

The decline is real and ubiquitous. Anyone who has traveled throughout the US in the last five years has seen it first hand from the largest cities to the smallest village. The changes have been dramatic. However, socialism is not the answer, it is the problem. More people taking than giving in a society has never worked in human history.


The concept of personal responsibility is glaringly absent from the article. The fault always belongs to someone else. I'm not in debt because I spent more than I make. I'm in debt because the evil banks made me borrow all that money. I'm fat because McDonald's made me eat every meal from the drive thru and forced me to supersize it. I'm ignorant because the bad teachers didn't teach me. The fact that I didn't do all that dumb, boring homework. Who has time to read a book? Really!


The problems of today are not insurmountable. Humanity has come back from some pretty serious and long last difficulties. The Dark Ages comes to mind along with wars, purges, plagues, and that little economic stumble called the Great Depression. And we all know that things never got better after any of those events. Oh, wait . . . Maybe those people had more courage, imagination, principles, intelligence, guts, and faith.


It is going to be very difficult for everyone, but we will work through it and it will be better, contrary to the defeatism in the article.

Well said!

[Loki1967]

Originally Posted by SonOfOdin

Read "Lights Out" and "One Second After".

I have them on PDF form for anyone that wants to.

I would like copies of these if you dont mind.
thanks!

[HB of CJ]

IMHO, I believe the nation MAY have reached its principate high in around 1910 or soos. Since then we have been in an OVERALL national slide.

The major cause? Heck if I know. Perhaps the notion that too many people vote; and always for their own self interest? Hummm. HB of CJ (old coot)